Beyer Questions???????

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Ogygian

Thanks Doug....still need to answer my question though...Are we going to see another 120 Beyer? What does a horse have to do to get that high of a mark?
You said a pair of dead on the board maiden claimers went 1:09 and change...Is it possible those maiden claimers nowadays are a bit faster then the maiden claimers 20 years ago?
Did Road need to run a 1:12 then?

Yes - you will obviously see another 120

In order to get that high of a mark .. a horse will probably have to be extremely good, probably have to have a favorable trip, and certainly have to run extremely fast in relation to the speed of the racetrack.

Yes it's possible that maiden claimers now a days are faster than 20 years ago. If you look at the Thoro-Graph figures .. claimers now a days are faster than Alysheba. That's why I prefer to use Beyer figures when comparing horses from different generations. They are very solid and consistant over the last 20 years in that regard IMO.

If Quality Road would have run a 120 ... that means Comeback would have had to run an 80 Beyer .. for running 4th in a 20K maiden claimer .. despite having been "pinched back at break. Checked far turn."

Cannon Shell was the former trainer of Comeback .. ask him if he thinks he could run an 80 Beyer on dirt. He ran a 53 and 45 in his two dirt races for him.