The sad cost of war

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Mike

Good evening, Dellinger.

What are your thoughts on the initial subject of this thread, an extremely high suicide rate among our soldiers?

I don't think it's as easily dismissed as "Suicide rates are going up across the board over the last 30 yrs. All walks of life".

I think a good portion of troops and probably the majority signed on for reasons other than patriotism or just wantng to be a soilder. They wanted an education or specialized training in a trade. Very few signed on for a career in the military. IMO. When the realty hits they are being shipped off they can't handle the fear. Or while in war they need an easy way out.

Ultimately though I feel it's a disrespect of life that is fueling the increase of suicides across the board. That and selfishness for not thinking of the loved ones left behind to pick up the pieces.

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

I think a good portion of troops and probably the majority signed on for reasons other than patriotism or just wantng to be a soilder. They wanted an education or specialized training in a trade. Very few signed on for a career in the military. IMO. When the realty hits they are being shipped off they can't handle the fear. Or while in war they need an easy way out.

Ultimately though I feel it's a disrespect of life that is fueling the increase of suicides across the board. That and selfishness for not thinking of the loved ones left behind to pick up the pieces.

your empathy is overwhelming.

you should think about starting your own needless war.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

your empathy is overwhelming.

you should think about starting your own needless war.

Maybe allowing the troops to wear makeup would help? Think that was another brilliant Clinton idea. Maybe it's the fact the military wants to ban smoking while the Commander in Chief smokes?

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Maybe allowing the troops to wear makeup would help? Think that was another brilliant Clinton idea. Maybe it's the fact the military wants to ban smoking while the Commander in Chief smokes?

i like the fact that you can twist a subject about people serving the country killing themselves into a bank shot about whatever obsessive thought enters your mind.

didn't al gore invent non-smoking gays in the military?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

i like the fact that you can twist a subject about people serving the country killing themselves into a bank shot about whatever obsessive thought enters your mind.

didn't al gore invent non-smoking gays in the military?

I laughed.

God Bless our troops.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

i like the fact that you can twist a subject about people serving the country killing themselves into a bank shot about whatever obsessive thought enters your mind.

didn't al gore invent non-smoking gays in the military?

in an indirect way I was trying to point out the fact we had a Commander in Chief (Clinton) who loathed the military. Because he was so out of touch he actually thought giving everyone a beret and allowing makeup would strengthen moral.

It seems many on the left especially here are obsessed with hypocrisy when it involves republican extra marital affairs but not when an obese Dr. who is being considered for surgeon general is out preaching the effect obesity has on health care costs between hitting her feed bag and a President who is pushing for universal coverage in between smoke breaks. A TN state senator who no one outside of TN has ever heard of has an affair and its blasted, Clinton has an affair and it’s a private matter.

And Al Gore never invented anything except a scam to sell air.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

in an indirect way I was trying to point out the fact we had a Commander in Chief (Clinton) who loathed the military. Because he was so out of touch he actually thought giving everyone a beret and allowing makeup would strengthen moral.

It seems many on the left especially here are obsessed with hypocrisy when it involves republican extra marital affairs but not when an obese Dr. who is being considered for surgeon general is out preaching the effect obesity has on health care costs between hitting her feed bag and a President who is pushing for universal coverage in between smoke breaks.

He should quit smoking, and the Cow Doc should reduce.

Now, a one-word Turkish impression: "HAPPY?"
..with two words: "HAPPY NOW?"
....with three words: "ARE YOU HAPPY?"
....four words...Turkeyglue Special: "YOU GIVE ME CONFUSIONS."

[geeker2]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

I think a good portion of troops and probably the majority signed on for reasons other than patriotism or just wantng to be a soilder. They wanted an education or specialized training in a trade. Very few signed on for a career in the military. IMO. When the realty hits they are being shipped off they can't handle the fear. Or while in war they need an easy way out.

Ultimately though I feel it's a disrespect of life that is fueling the increase of suicides across the board. That and selfishness for not thinking of the loved ones left behind to pick up the pieces.

This has very little to do with why people do or do not commit suicide. It is a rational act for those that do take their life - but to those left behind it is not rational.

PTSD is not understood by those who have never experienced it or have loved ones that live with it. It takes lots and lots of therapy to recover , but for many a a single bullet works to ease the pain and depression.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

I think a good portion of troops and probably the majority signed on for reasons other than patriotism or just wantng to be a soilder. They wanted an education or specialized training in a trade. Very few signed on for a career in the military. IMO. When the realty hits they are being shipped off they can't handle the fear. Or while in war they need an easy way out.

Ultimately though I feel it's a disrespect of life that is fueling the increase of suicides across the board. That and selfishness for not thinking of the loved ones left behind to pick up the pieces.

That and too many people being on under supervised anti-depressants that doctors hand out left and right.