Cocoa Beach Had To Come Down

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Clearly Mettee is as good as watching horse races as he is at managing the Godolphin Stable.

Disqualifying Cocoa Beach today would have been one of the worst decisions the stews in NY have made in years. The supposed contact stemmed from an inside move by My Baby Baby off the rail turning for home. The appearance of Cocoa Beach coming in was more the horses to her inside being forced out.

NT

Agree to disagree. I have yet to see any angle that gives credence to this theory.

[the_fat_man]

Kudos to the NYRA stewards. If this were CALI, they'd take down half the field.

I think the point where the horses enter the stretch, especially on the turf, needs to be treated similarly to the break. Typically, they're bunched and they have momentum from the turn and its difficult to keep them straight. Factor in early lead changes, and many of them are all over the place.

Here's the point: there's the length of the stretch for horses to recover from minor incidents. If they do so, they deserve to win. If they don't, they probably wouldn't have won anyway. If a horse gets shut off because it's been behind, sucking up, the entire race, TOUGH!! Those are the breaks. The jocks need to figure out how to work their way through traffic -- it's not like they've done any running to that point anyway, typically.

I'm all for just letting them ride/run at this point and taking my chances with my jockey RATHER than the stewards. Last thing horseplayers need at this point is MORE takedowns.

[docicu3]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

Kudos to the NYRA stewards. If this were CALI, they'd take down half the field.

I think the point where the horses enter the stretch, especially on the turf, needs to be treated similarly to the break. Typically, they're bunched and they have momentum from the turn and its difficult to keep them straight. Factor in early lead changes, and many of them are all over the place.

Here's the point: there's the length of the stretch for horses to recover from minor incidents. If they do so, they deserve to win. If they don't, they probably wouldn't have won anyway. If a horse gets shut off because it's been behind, sucking up, the entire race, TOUGH!! Those are the breaks. The jocks need to figure out how to work their way through traffic -- it's not like they've done any running to that point anyway, typically.

I'm all for just letting them ride/run at this point and taking my chances with my jockey RATHER than the stewards. Last thing horseplayers need at this point is MORE takedowns.

Complete garbage on this one.....

If you smack a horse earlier than the stretch and it is clearly a foul that robs a horse of momentum and "energy" to run for lack of a clearer term and the offending horse finishes ahead of the horse fouled. With the vague exception of a gate foul he comes DOWN. No more BS....the last thing horse players need is more races ruined by excuses for why a foul does not factor into a placing...enough of these damn excuses based on California decisions. Just call the race fairly and stop worrying about how many times and what damn circuit is involved. Maiden or stakes, turf or dirt a damn foul is a foul...

[joeydb]

I didn't see it, but I heard the coverage on Steve's show. It would have made my day as I had the place horse to win on an exacta and trifecta at nice odds.