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Old 09-14-2006, 03:06 PM
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I ... and just about everyone I've ever known in the business world ... have been in that position on a few occasions ... and every time ... things worked out ... for myself and everyone else I've known ... for the better.

This is still the United States of America ... and at present ... in the second half of 2006 ... it is more prosperous ... and offers more opportunity ... than any country at any time in history.

Keep showing up ... and using your noodle ... and pursuing what you enjoy ... you'll be surprised at how quickly and decisively things can turn around.
Let me ask you a question. Government investigations found that the oil companies were not doing anything wrong in regards to gas prices. Have you noticed that gas prices are going down in your area right now? Now, has any major thing happened as to why gas prices have been going down? I know that they found the new oil reserve in Texas, but that won't be operatable for many years. I know the real reason that gas prices are going down. It is all common sense. Elections are coming up in November. The government is playing with us. I guarantee that gas prices will go back up right after the elections are over with. When the gas prices do go back up after the elections, there will be your proof that the government is playing and toying with it's citizens in certain aspects.

Thankyou BB! I have proof! So I REALLY was right! I have found the proof that I needed from townhall.com that tells us that the goverment is playing with it's citizens. Try ignoring this are arguing that it is just a mere coincidence that this would be brought up in a Republican website! Thank you so much for allowing me to broaden my horizens!

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/C...president_bush

"Look for the dominant issues leading up to the November election to be the war, taxes, education and the economy. No one at the White House wants to say it publicly, but gas prices continue to fall, and the president might wonder why, when gasoline was $3.50 a gallon, it was on the front page, but now that prices have dropped 80 cents or more in some places, one doesn't see as much attention given to it."

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Old 09-14-2006, 03:12 PM
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Let me ask you a question. Government investigations found that the oil companies were not doing anything wrong in regards to gas prices. Have you noticed that gas prices are going down in your area right now? Now, has any major thing happened as to why gas prices have been going down? I know that they found the new oil reserve in Texas, but that won't be operatable for many years. I know the real reason that gas prices are going down. It is all common sense. Elections are coming up in November. The government is playing with us. I guarantee that gas prices will go back up right after the elections are over with. When the gas prices do go back up after the elections, there will be your proof that the government is playing and toying with it's citizens in certain aspects.

Thankyou BB! I have proof! So I REALLY was right! I have found the proof that I needed from townhall.com that tells us that the goverment is playing with it's citizens. Try ignoring this are arguing that it is just a mere coincidence that this would be brought up in a Republican website! Thank you so much for allowing me to broaden my horizens!

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/C...president_bush

"Look for the dominant issues leading up to the November election to be the war, taxes, education and the economy. No one at the White House wants to say it publicly, but gas prices continue to fall, and the president might wonder why, when gasoline was $3.50 a gallon, it was on the front page, but now that prices have dropped 80 cents or more in some places, one doesn't see as much attention given to it."
KR: I'm sorry, but that paragraph doesn't prove a thing...much less the Administrations' playing the public!
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Old 09-14-2006, 03:16 PM
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Let me ask you a question. Government investigations found that the oil companies were not doing anything wrong in regards to gas prices. Have you noticed that gas prices are going down in your area right now? Now, has any major thing happened as to why gas prices have been going down? I know that they found the new oil reserve in Texas, but that won't be operatable for many years. I know the real reason that gas prices are going down. It is all common sense. Elections are coming up in November. The government is playing with us. I guarantee that gas prices will go back up right after the elections are over with. When the gas prices do go back up after the elections, there will be your proof that the government is playing and toying with it's citizens in certain aspects.

Thankyou BB! I have proof! So I REALLY was right! I have found the proof that I needed from townhall.com that tells us that the goverment is playing with it's citizens. Try ignoring this are arguing that it is just a mere coincidence that this would be brought up in a Republican website! Thank you so much for allowing me to broaden my horizens!

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/C...president_bush

"Look for the dominant issues leading up to the November election to be the war, taxes, education and the economy. No one at the White House wants to say it publicly, but gas prices continue to fall, and the president might wonder why, when gasoline was $3.50 a gallon, it was on the front page, but now that prices have dropped 80 cents or more in some places, one doesn't see as much attention given to it."
I don't know where you got your first quote ... but your second one from Cal Thomas ... has him questioning the hypocrisy of the leftist media who headline rising gasoline prices ... but ignore falling ones.

In any case ... I don't understand the connection between your post and my response to Somerfrost.
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Old 09-14-2006, 03:53 PM
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I don't know where you got your first quote ... but your second one from Cal Thomas ... has him questioning the hypocrisy of the leftist media who headline rising gasoline prices ... but ignore falling ones.

In any case ... I don't understand the connection between your post and my response to Somerfrost.
Jessica misuderstood the quote. She thought that Thomas was insinuating that the White House was respnsible for the drop in oil prices. That's not what he was saying. He was saying that the white House is frustrated that when gasoline was $3.50 a gallon, it was all over the papers. Now that it's $2.70 a gallon, that's not metioned in the papers. So they're frustrated that they are sort of blamed when the price goes up, but they don't get any credit when the price goes down. The truth of the matter is that oil is a commodity that is traded all over the world. Our governmnet has no control over oil prices at all.
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Old 09-14-2006, 03:57 PM
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Jessica misuderstood the quote. She thought that Thomas was insinuating that the White House was respnsible for the drop in oil prices. That's not what he was saying. He was saying that the white House is frustrated that when gasoline was $3.50 a gallon, it was all over the papers. Now that it's $2.70 a gallon, that's not metioned in the papers. So they're frustrated that they are sort of blamed when the price goes up, but they don't get any credit when the price goes down. The truth of the matter is that oil is a commodity that is traded all over the world. Our governmnet has no control over oil prices at all.
SOME people expect our government to use our own oil reserves so that we can have cheaper gasoline for a short time.
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Old 09-14-2006, 04:08 PM
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SOME people expect our government to use our own oil reserves so that we can have cheaper gasoline for a short time.
Even if we did that, that would have no effect on the price of oil. I guess it could conceivably make the price of a barrel drop from $63.80 down to $63.40. That would be about it. It wouldn't have any real effect.
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Old 09-14-2006, 04:04 PM
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Jessica misuderstood the quote. She thought that Thomas was insinuating that the White House was respnsible for the drop in oil prices. That's not what he was saying. He was saying that the white House is frustrated that when gasoline was $3.50 a gallon, it was all over the papers. Now that it's $2.70 a gallon, that's not metioned in the papers. So they're frustrated that they are sort of blamed when the price goes up, but they don't get any credit when the price goes down. The truth of the matter is that oil is a commodity that is traded all over the world. Our governmnet has no control over oil prices at all.
What you say is true with an asterisk. What you should say is that our government has no DIRECT control over oil prices. Just like our government has no DIRECT control over long term interest rates. If you are implying that our government has NO influence on worldwide crude prices, that would be incorrect.
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Old 09-14-2006, 04:14 PM
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What you say is true with an asterisk. What you should say is that our government has no DIRECT control over oil prices. Just like our government has no DIRECT control over long term interest rates. If you are implying that our government has NO influence on worldwide crude prices, that would be incorrect.
We have much more control over interest rates than oil prices. The Fed can raise or lower the federal funds rate as they please. That's pretty significant.

There is pretty much nothing we can do to affect oil prices. I guess we could call some of the OPEC members and beg them to lower their prices. This has never worked in the past.
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Old 09-14-2006, 04:17 PM
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We have much more control over interest rates than oil prices. The Fed can raise or lower the federal funds rate as they please. That's pretty significant.

There is pretty much nothing we can do to affect oil prices. I guess we could call some of the OPEC members and beg them to lower their prices. This has never worked in the past.
No, it sure hasn't. They know that no matter what, we're going to purchase it, so why would they want to lower the prices? LOL
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Old 09-14-2006, 04:22 PM
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We have much more control over interest rates than oil prices. The Fed can raise or lower the federal funds rate as they please. That's pretty significant.

There is pretty much nothing we can do to affect oil prices. I guess we could call some of the OPEC menbers and beg them to lower their prices. This has never worked in the past.
US foreign policy has a direct impact on worldwide crude prices. Come on Rupert- you know this. What has impacted oil prices more than anything is the situation in Lebanon for better or worse. As tensions rose, prices went up. As they were quelled, prices went down.

Of course, we have to factor in seasonal adjustments as well. Oil prices always rise in the summer.
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Old 09-14-2006, 04:32 PM
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US foreign policy has a direct impact on worldwide crude prices. Come on Rupert- you know this. What has impacted oil prices more than anything is the situation in Lebanon for better or worse. As tensions rose, prices went up. As they were quelled, prices went down.

Of course, we have to factor in seasonal adjustments as well. Oil prices always rise in the summer.
I don't think I would agree that US foreign policy has a direct impact on oil prices. I think it can have more of an indirect effect.

I guess if we did something extreme it could have a big effect. If we decided to go to war with Iran tomorow, the price of oil would obviously go way up.
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Old 09-14-2006, 06:42 PM
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Jessica misuderstood the quote. She thought that Thomas was insinuating that the White House was respnsible for the drop in oil prices. That's not what he was saying. He was saying that the white House is frustrated that when gasoline was $3.50 a gallon, it was all over the papers. Now that it's $2.70 a gallon, that's not metioned in the papers. So they're frustrated that they are sort of blamed when the price goes up, but they don't get any credit when the price goes down. The truth of the matter is that oil is a commodity that is traded all over the world. Our governmnet has no control over oil prices at all.
No, it wasn't a response to anything other than I find it very odd that the price of gasoline is going down right before the election and that it was mentioned in that right wing article.
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Old 09-14-2006, 07:06 PM
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No, it wasn't a response to anything other than I find it very odd that the price of gasoline is going down right before the election and that it was mentioned in that right wing article.
Do you understand that gasoline prices go up or down based on the price of oil? The price of oil has been coming way down and that is the reason that the price of gasoline is coming down. Our government has no control over the price of oil. Oil is an international commodity that is traded. The price of oil right now is $63 a barrel. If you actually know what the price of oil is going to do, you can get rich by trading oil futures. It would be the same as if you knew for sure which horse was going to win the race before the race starts. You could bet on that horse and make a lot of money.
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Old 09-14-2006, 06:44 PM
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I don't know where you got your first quote ... but your second one from Cal Thomas ... has him questioning the hypocrisy of the leftist media who headline rising gasoline prices ... but ignore falling ones.

In any case ... I don't understand the connection between your post and my response to Somerfrost.
The first quote I made up myself. You told me in an earlier post to go check out a right wing website so I did.
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The first quote I made up myself. You told me in an earlier post to go check out a right wing website so I did.
Others have responded quite well to your own question about oil and gasoline prices.

With regard to right-wing opinion ... you really need to consume a lot more of it ... spend more time at townhall.com ... there are lots of youngish women writers there whom you may get comfortable with.

But the best project you should set for yourself ... would be to go to the library and take out any book by Thomas Sowell ... and read it cover to cover. There will be lots of valuable data ... and even more valuable analysis from a point of view ... a really brilliant one ... which you've never experienced before.

There's a lot more out there than the loony leftist claptrap you've exposed yourself to ... give it an equal opportunity. Then decide what to believe ... and what not to.
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Old 09-14-2006, 10:19 PM
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Demand.
Demand.

Dont buy gas. Stay in your house this weekend. If everyone in the US did this everyweekend... We might see 2.00 even again. When the price goes under 2.50 like it is here, people think, hey thats cheap and start buying and cruisin. The consumption and perception by the public on what is affordable is a huge factor. Drive slower, less often, during times when traffic is not heavy so you dont sit burning fuel.
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Old 09-14-2006, 10:23 PM
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But the best project you should set for yourself ... would be to go to the library and take out any book by Thomas Sowell ... and read it cover to cover.

There's a lot more out there
than the loony leftist claptrap you've exposed yourself to ... give it an equal opportunity. Then decide what to believe ... and what not to.
So the lots more is Thomas Sowell. Lots more is... singular... Thomas Sowell.
You are amazing. Tell someone there is a lot more out there and keep referring back to one author. Biblical type of writer. What a crock.
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Others have responded quite well to your own question about oil and gasoline prices.

With regard to right-wing opinion ... you really need to consume a lot more of it ... spend more time at townhall.com ... there are lots of youngish women writers there whom you may get comfortable with.

But the best project you should set for yourself ... would be to go to the library and take out any book by Thomas Sowell ... and read it cover to cover. There will be lots of valuable data ... and even more valuable analysis from a point of view ... a really brilliant one ... which you've never experienced before.

There's a lot more out there than the loony leftist claptrap you've exposed yourself to ... give it an equal opportunity. Then decide what to believe ... and what not to.
I agree with everything BB says here. Boss loves Sowell and that wonderful Ann Coulter as well. She is such an eloquent speaker. Such a classy woman.

Kentuckyrosesinmay, in order to get a true grasp of the heartbeat of the world, youve got to listen Rush Limbaugh any chance you get. Now there is a man of the people! He is a fountain of knowledge on all things political, economical and PHARMACEUTICAL.
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just saw this am that oil in asia is down......there are a variety or reasons why oil is down--altho the funniest 'theory' is the upcoming election. if only the u.s. elections had that much influence on a world market.

demand is down, no storms, futures are trading lower due to a possible increase in the future in u.s. oil production...and of course isreal and lebanon are not killing each other at the moment. and then there's iran, they haven't yet thrown in the towel on working out some sort of agreement regarding their nuclear program.

but of course instead of thinking about why they're down, the easy thing is to point at the white house.
also, naive on their part to complain about the media not talking about oil being down, gas being down--why that would be considered good news, and no one pays money to read good news.
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Old 09-15-2006, 07:25 AM
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i like the writing of sowell, also george will. i also read maureen dowd until the ark paper quit carrying her. we have a gent down here, gene lyons, our far-left leaning writer for the editorial section, he gets them up in arms around here. read him too. i'll read just about anyone who doesn't stoop to the level of the caveman....you know--_____bad, ________good--regardless of what either is doing!
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