Einstein vs Gio Ponti

[the_fat_man]

Anyone kicking out Presious Passion really needs to take a long look at his races. This is a front runner that's able to ACCELERATE in the lane when the closers come to him. And, this is NOT after running crawling fractions. This horse is able to run a wicked pace and do this. And, he can also duel and do it. And, on more than one occasion he's come back again after being passed in the stretch.
I'm just hoping for a firm course.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

Anyone kicking out Presious Passion really needs to take a long look at his races. This is a front runner that's able to ACCELERATE in the lane when the closers come to him. And, this is NOT after running crawling fractions. This horse is able to run a wicked pace and do this. And, he can also duel and do it. And, on more than one occasion he's come back again after being passed in the stretch.
I'm just hoping for a firm course.

I dont remember TFM ever liking a horse this much.
This is at least the 4th time I have saw him tout Presious Passion.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

Anyone kicking out Presious Passion really needs to take a long look at his races. This is a front runner that's able to ACCELERATE in the lane when the closers come to him. And, this is NOT after running crawling fractions. This horse is able to run a wicked pace and do this. And, he can also duel and do it. And, on more than one occasion he's come back again after being passed in the stretch.
I'm just hoping for a firm course.

Brass Hat, Proudinsky, Banrock, Quasicobra and Spice Route are not in this race to try and run him down. He wins I will tip my cap to him. I don't even think he will hit the board.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Scav

Brass Hat, Proudinsky, Banrock, Quasicobra and Spice Route are not in this race to try and run him down. He wins I will tip my cap to him. I don't even think he will hit the board.

What has the Beverly D, Arlington Million, Secretariat pick 3 averaged the past few years ?
If you dont mind checking....

[Scav]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

What has the Beverly D, Arlington Million, Secretariat pick 3 averaged the past few years ?
If you dont mind checking....

No idea, it pays well though regardless of outcome, I think the pool from last year had 700k in it or something, it was monsterous....

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by Scav

No idea, it pays well though regardless of outcome, I think the pool from last year had 700k in it or something, it was monsterous....

It paid nearly $600 for a dollar in 2007 with Shamdinan, Royal Highness, and Jambalaya.

The pool is usually huge and there's plenty of value to be had.

NT

[Bobby Fischer]

haven't been feeling well to handicap or feel like looking @ the field, but Einstein is nothing to worry about in a big turf race. If there are any decent grade I or grade II horses in the field he most likely gets slightly to moderately overbet as usual, and beat.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Bobby Fischer

haven't been feeling well to handicap or feel like looking @ the field, but Einstein is nothing to worry about in a big turf race. If there are any decent grade I or grade II horses in the field he most likely gets slightly to moderately overbet as usual, and beat.

I completely disagree. Im not touting Einstein in this spot but to say that he is nothing to worry about in a big turf race is just not accurate. He has won multiple grade 1's on turf which is his strongest surface and the Big cap on the synthetic.

What do you have to back up this statement?

[Bobby Fischer]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

I completely disagree. Im not touting Einstein in this spot but to say that he is nothing to worry about in a big turf race is just not accurate. He has won multiple grade 1's on turf which is his strongest surface and the Big cap on the synthetic.

What do you have to back up this statement?

I don't need back-up
I'm like Arnold Schwarzenegger in this game



ok... you made me look at the form

In this field, if you give me 10-1 I will bet Einstein to win for $5, but no more. And this field isn't even all that great.


On paper Gio Ponte and Cime de Triomphe are the obvious standouts. The key here is going back and watching the Eclipse(and maybe a couple other foreign flicks) and making my judgment as to whether or not he "lost the jump" on conduit in the trouble line, regressed, or whether conduit improved/used the blue gerard.. as prep.

Einstein desperately needs Presious Passion's(how can you not root for this horse?) PACE to take the 3 foreign shippers out of there game(Glorio de campo is probably reall not a contender, so "2" )
But even with the best "American" style pace and the worst reactions frome CIME n co. , Gio Ponte looks like he would benefit at this point just as much and have his table set.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Scav

No idea, it pays well though regardless of outcome, I think the pool from last year had 700k in it or something, it was monsterous....

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I love it.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

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I love it.

Great

[Scav]

For any record out there, I am very interested in Take the Points, especially getting Desormeax. Him and Laureate Conductor right now. I don't know what to do with Giant Oak. He is such a mother f'er in the morning, always hot and bothered, and with it being so hot Saturday, I have a feeling he might lose it completely......

[jwkniska]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

What has the Beverly D, Arlington Million, Secretariat pick 3 averaged the past few years ?
If you dont mind checking....

chepest payout I remember was about $200 the year the tin man won the million.