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Old 08-04-2009, 02:49 PM
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Cold is the issue and yes its been discussed.
There are lots of issues but I dont see how cold can be one of them when they recently ran one of these very close to Chicago. And is it really that much colder here than it is at Belmont in late Oct/early Nov?
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Old 08-04-2009, 02:50 PM
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There are lots of issues but I dont see how cold can be one of them when they recently ran one of these very close to Chicago. And is it really that much colder here than it is at Belmont in late Oct/early Nov?
Yes it is that much colder than Belmont in late Oct. I'm not saying not to do it, I would love it, but it is a reason given.
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Yes it is that much colder than Belmont in late Oct. I'm not saying not to do it, I would love it, but it is a reason given.
Couldn't be much colder than Churchill in '06.
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Old 08-04-2009, 02:52 PM
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There are lots of issues but I dont see how cold can be one of them when they recently ran one of these very close to Chicago. And is it really that much colder here than it is at Belmont in late Oct/early Nov?
Yes, and the bigger reason it makes no sense in Saratoga is it would mean moving all the NYRA equipment up to Saratoga for one week and then moving it all back to Belmont. Unless they ever wanted to do a BC at the end of September and extended the Saratoga meet until then it makes absolutely no sense to move all the equipment two extra times when Belmont is a perfect venue for the BC.
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Bring it to the BigM. See the lifers there.
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Canada is kinda cold too isn't it?
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Old 08-04-2009, 03:01 PM
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Canada is kinda cold too isn't it?
Have you seen it at Woodbine since that disaster? No.
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Old 08-04-2009, 03:03 PM
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Have you seen it at Woodbine since that disaster? No.
My vote would just be to do it at Belmont every year. Its the perfect race track in every way.
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Old 08-04-2009, 03:04 PM
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My vote would just be to do it at Belmont every year. Its the perfect race track in every way.
Totally agree.
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Old 08-04-2009, 09:22 PM
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My vote would just be to do it at Belmont every year. Its the perfect race track in every way.
It should be held permanently at Churchill. It needs to be at a neutral site.

Belmont is fine, but I want to see more than one BC dirt race run around two full turns.
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Old 08-04-2009, 02:59 PM
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Yes, and the bigger reason it makes no sense in Saratoga is it would mean moving all the NYRA equipment up to Saratoga for one week and then moving it all back to Belmont. Unless they ever wanted to do a BC at the end of September and extended the Saratoga meet until then it makes absolutely no sense to move all the equipment two extra times when Belmont is a perfect venue for the BC.
I dont see it but I'll take your word for it. May be 10 degrees different?
What about Chicago? Are you telling me its warmer in Chicago too?

Now is the cold issue relating to the fans wont want to stay outside in the cold all day? Or is it about plumbing and other technical equipment? If it is, that I could see, but fans go to Lambert Field in weather 50 degrees colder.

A BC on real dirt and a nice turf course is a pretty damn good product! I think people would come!

Lifers Randall? There are plenty of them here at Saratoga too!
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I dont see it but I'll take your word for it. May be 10 degrees different?
What about Chicago? Are you telling me its warmer in Chicago too?

Now is the cold issue relating to the fans wont want to stay outside in the cold all day? Or is it about plumbing and other technical equipment? If it is, that I could see, but fans go to Lambert Field in weather 50 degrees colder.

A BC on real dirt and a nice turf course is a pretty damn good product! I think people would come!

Lifers Randall? There are plenty of them here at Saratoga too!
The BigM is a dump I don't want it there I was joking. SO is Aqueduct though.

Truthfully if they had a rotation between Arl, CD, Bel, and SA I'd be fine with that, though I don't like having it on Poly much.
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The BigM is a dump I don't want it there I was joking. SO is Aqueduct though.

Truthfully if they had a rotation between Arl, CD, Bel, and SA I'd be fine with that, though I don't like having it on Poly much.
It would never happen at the Meadowlands. Too many questions/risks with the Main Track. Due to the fact that it's not really the #1 permanant surface there.
I personally think with a fresh coat of paint and a few leaky pipes fixed The Big A would be a fine spot to have the BC.
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http://www.average-temperature.com/t...toga%20Springs

Ugh after September. That's only reason I didn't move there. Love it.
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Old 08-04-2009, 03:16 PM
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http://www.average-temperature.com/t...toga%20Springs

Ugh after September. That's only reason I didn't move there. Love it.
Really? I am not a winter lover either but I wouldnt let a few degrees here and there dictate where I live. If it was warm weather I was after, the NYC/NJ area would not be where I would go. I know in the harshest months, the NYC area is slightly more mild than here, but the weather there still sucks from about Nov through April.

As somebody who has done just about every winter of their life here, its really not that bad. And this from somebody who doesnt ski or snowmobile. OTBS are warm places to be in the middle of winter. Dumps, but warm!
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The BigM is a dump I don't want it there I was joking. SO is Aqueduct though.

Truthfully if they had a rotation between Arl, CD, Bel, and SA I'd be fine with that, though I don't like having it on Poly much.
The Meadowlands is a fun track to go to! I wouldn't select it as a place for the BC but I can think of a lot of other tracks that are more dumpy.
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There are lots of issues but I dont see how cold can be one of them when they recently ran one of these very close to Chicago. And is it really that much colder here than it is at Belmont in late Oct/early Nov?
We live here, and we know its not much colder....
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We live here, and we know its not much colder....
See that might be a reason not to have it in Chicago either.
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It would be amazing to have the BC at Sunshine Coast in Australia.
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Old 08-04-2009, 03:16 PM
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We live here, and we know its not much colder....
Are all of you questioning whether Saratoga Springs is colder than Chicago or Toronto taking into account that Saratoga is not winterized whatsoever?

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