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Old 07-24-2009, 01:30 PM
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Seems like the giveways really accomplish little. I know a lot more horseplayers that have stopped going on giveway days than I have ever heard someone say "I went for a free umbrella, now I'm hooked"...
Isn't that really the horseplayer's problem, or perhaps more appropriately, choice? If this is really a topic of discussion, the track can never win. If there's no one in attendance, people complain about that fact. And then if they have a good crowd, (self-absorbed) others complain that they were inconvenienced.

In the grand scheme of things, we're talking about four days of a 36-day meet, and as a lifelong Capital District resident, there's certainly more good will that comes from these days than ill.
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Old 07-24-2009, 01:50 PM
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Isn't that really the horseplayer's problem, or perhaps more appropriately, choice? If this is really a topic of discussion, the track can never win. If there's no one in attendance, people complain about that fact. And then if they have a good crowd, (self-absorbed) others complain that they were inconvenienced.

In the grand scheme of things, we're talking about four days of a 36-day meet, and as a lifelong Capital District resident, there's certainly more good will that comes from these days than ill.
Agree to disagree I guess.

Lived there the first 25 years of my life and always just thought it was kind of a waste and a pain in the ass. That being said, I'm going Sunday which is a giveaway day so I certainly don't let it bother me.

From my perspective I want a clean well kept Saratoga with strong handle and purses. Free T's pretty low on the list...
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Old 07-25-2009, 06:54 AM
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I understand that NYRA is giving away Alabama baseball caps next Sunday. (I am assuming that these are Alabama Stakes hats, and not University of Alabama hats.)

Can you get me one... or three, please?
Sure thing! I plan to bring a $100 bill and load myself up like a pack mule.
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Old 07-25-2009, 06:59 AM
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I think the best giveaway is a voucher. That way you bring people that will play the ponies.
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Old 07-25-2009, 07:08 AM
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it used to be bad if you had to wait to get in. the line sometimes goes down the street. if you are there to play horses, it sucks. i know alot of people that used to avoid sundays. but in recent years they put an admission window in with no give away. its great, you pay 3 bucks and walk in. the morons that go through the turnstiles dozens of times and then go home before the second race is off, ruin it. how does the track benefit from this anyway?
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Old 07-25-2009, 07:08 AM
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I think the best giveaway is a voucher. That way you bring people that will play the ponies.
Was a popular promotion for years in NY. But then was disallowed by the State Racing & Wagering Board.
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Old 07-25-2009, 07:43 AM
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Was a popular promotion for years in NY. But then was disallowed by the State Racing & Wagering Board.
i did not know about this. when did that happen? a couple years ago saratoga harness sent me one in the mail. you had to be at the sunday mantinee on the date it said and my voucher went in and was worth a 100 bucks. i loved that promotion why did they ban it? of course i used the 100 to bet the simulcasts throughbreds but its a great promotion for folks that actually play the horses!
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Old 07-25-2009, 08:00 AM
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i did not know about this. when did that happen? a couple years ago saratoga harness sent me one in the mail. you had to be at the sunday mantinee on the date it said and my voucher went in and was worth a 100 bucks. i loved that promotion why did they ban it? of course i used the 100 to bet the simulcasts throughbreds but its a great promotion for folks that actually play the horses!
JP,

Maybe 4 years ago? And in an explanation to those opposed to the giveaways, for years you would register yourself for NYRA mailings by putting your name and address on the back of the giveaway vouchers. It was part of the base of NYRA's mailing list. Then, when Saratoga approached, you'd get the seasonal mailing with the summer schedule and ticket info and there would be the 'Surprise Voucher' enclosed with it. It was worth $2, $5 or $25 and was super popular.

When RWB started to wield their intrusive hand on every single detail of the running of the racetrack during the upheaval period, the Surprise Voucher disappeared along with Clubhouse Exchange Coupons, Admission Day Passes, Seasonal Passes for jockey/trainer wives/family and public access to the Oklahoma Training Track.
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Old 07-25-2009, 07:30 AM
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I think the best giveaway is a voucher. That way you bring people that will play the ponies.
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Was a popular promotion for years in NY. But then was disallowed by the State Racing & Wagering Board.
Popular here as well. In terms of marketing metrics, it was one of our best responses.
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Old 07-25-2009, 07:15 AM
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I understand that NYRA is giving away Alabama baseball caps next Sunday. (I am assuming that these are Alabama Stakes hats, and not University of Alabama hats.)

Can you get me one... or three, please?
You can just buy one of the thousand that will be on e-bay next Sunday before the last race even goes off.
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