Denman trying hard; (Bejarano-Multiple facial fractures)

[the_fat_man]

They really need to get with the TRAKUS NORTH (WO) program and show the numbers around the track. This would allow those not interested in hearing THE MUMBLER to mute the audio.

When you listen to Stauffer for a while, you get a full appreciation of how bad Denman and Durkin are.

The game is hard enough to beat, do we really need to put up with these buffoons just to watch a race?

Take the marbles out of your mouth Trevor. And, try speaking up occasionally. And, Tom, put the damn danish down.

[Split Rock]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

They really need to get with the TRAKUS NORTH (WO) program and show the numbers around the track. This would allow those not interested in hearing THE MUMBLER to mute the audio.

When you listen to Stauffer for a while, you get a full appreciation of how bad Denman and Durkin are.

The game is hard enough to beat, do we really need to put up with these buffoons just to watch a race?

Take the marbles out of your mouth Trevor. And, try speaking up occasionally. And, Tom, put the damn danish down.

Bashing race callers is on par with tripping handicap people. They are easy targets. I'm betting the 'ol fat man has done zip in his life that required any talent....thus the easy shot (from his living room, in his boxers, mind you) at those that do have said talent.

[Travis Stone]

Originally Posted by Split Rock

They are easy targets.

It comes with the territory, but we all know that going in. jballscalls bashes me daily on his "Beem Me Up" radio show or whatever he's calling it.

[Ronnie]

I wonder if O'Neill feels an ounce of remorse for what happened to Bejarano.

[jballscalls]

Originally Posted by Ronnie

I wonder if O'Neill feels an ounce of remorse for what happened to Bejarano.

Of course he feels bad. I mean I don't know either party personally, but every trainer i've ever known thats had a horse go down has felt awful about the horse, the grooms, the owners and the riders. It's a no win situation and it sucks for everyone.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by Ronnie

I wonder if O'Neill feels an ounce of remorse for what happened to Bejarano.

Doubt it. Poly won't save horses who shouldn't be racing.

Originally Posted by Ronnie

I wonder if O'Neill feels an ounce of remorse for what happened to Bejarano.

I wonder if this is the stupidest most unfeeling post I've ever read. Or only #2?

Originally Posted by v j stauffer

I wonder if this is the stupidest most unfeeling post I've ever read. Or only #2?

Bite him.

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Bite him.

Exactly!

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by v j stauffer

I wonder if this is the stupidest most unfeeling post I've ever read. Or only #2?

do you think trainers really care about the riders, in general. He probably cares because it was his horse but as Lukas said "these guys are paid well for the choices they make" (i paraphrase)

[jballscalls]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

do you think trainers really care about the riders, in general. He probably cares because it was his horse but as Lukas said "these guys are paid well for the choices they make" (i paraphrase)

of course they do. they work day in and day out with these guys

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by v j stauffer

I wonder if this is the stupidest most unfeeling post I've ever read. Or only #2?

He didn't ask whether O'Neil felt bad about what happened. He didn't ask if O'Neil felt terrible for Rafael. Those would have been stupid questions, but that's not what he asked.

He asked whether O'Neil feels "remorse". Remorse implies a feeling of guilt over something that you did that you know was wrong.

If a trainer runs a horse that he knows is lame and the horse breaks down and the jockey gets hurt, the trainer would probably feel remorseful (if he has a conscience).

If a trainer ran a totally sound horse that went down due to some freak incident and the jockey got hurt, the trainer would feel terrible but he would not feel remorseful. You only are going to feel remorse if you did something wrong. "Remorse" implies "painful regret over wrongdoing".

I don't think any of us know whether O'Neil feels remorse. If he thinks he ran a lame horse, then he probably feels remorse. If he thinks he ran a sound horse, then he would feel terrible over what happened but he wouldn't feel remorse.

I don't think it was a stupid question.

[docicu3]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

He didn't ask whether O'Neil felt bad about what happened. He didn't ask if O'Neil felt terrible for Rafael. Those would have been stupid questions, but that's not what he asked.

He asked whether O'Neil feels "remorse". Remorse implies a feeling of guilt over something that you did that you know was wrong.

If a trainer runs a horse that he knows is lame and the horse breaks down and the jockey gets hurt, the trainer would probably feel remorseful (if he has a conscience).

If a trainer ran a totally sound horse that went down due to some freak incident and the jockey got hurt, the trainer would feel terrible but he would not feel remorseful. You only are going to feel remorse if you did something wrong. "Remorse" implies "painful regret over wrongdoing".

I don't think any of us know whether O'Neil feels remorse. If he thinks he ran a lame horse, then he probably feels remorse. If he thinks he ran a sound horse, then he would feel terrible over what happened but he wouldn't feel remorse.

I don't think it was a stupid question.

If you know you are sending a jock out on a lame horse you shouldn't feel remorse you should feel shame and disgust that you set up a jock to possibly die because you had to win a damn 12.5K claimer or whatever it was. Never mind that it is one of the leading jocks in the game, it doesn't matter.......tar and feather wouldn't be enough for that crime and that is exactly what is if you knew the horse was lame when you sent him out there.

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I don't think it was a stupid question.

So in other words Vic is stupid.

[jballscalls]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

It comes with the territory, but we all know that going in. jballscalls bashes me daily on his "Beem Me Up" radio show or whatever he's calling it.

I'm just trying to get you back for snapping my pocket aces with 38 offsuit and that other garbage you play!!

Originally Posted by Split Rock

Bashing race callers is on par with tripping handicap people. They are easy targets. I'm betting the 'ol fat man has done zip in his life that required any talent....thus the easy shot (from his living room, in his boxers, mind you) at those that do have said talent.

You know this could be turned into an endless cycle. Like I could take your post and turn it around on you and ask what color s&k tie are you wearing and whatnot.

[CSC]

This is one race I missed watching(no replay), judging by the reactions maybe that is a good thing. Sounds like a Go For Wand or Joe Theisman type of injury, certainly not for the squimish.