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Old 07-10-2009, 07:47 AM
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i don't know losing by a length and 1/2 when mike smith was blocked early. this horse is in everyones league and proved it by running in the money in all three races. i actually think he wins that race at 1 1/4 miles. the horses that are NOT in her league are the chumps they set her up against and she beats by 20! the three year old males are going to get bigger and better, some of the contenders have been racing for just a few months. shes out of her league with the fillies but i would not jump to any conclusions just yet, theres plenty of racing left this summer. curlin could not beat rags to riches in june, in october no one could touch him ! if MTB stays healthy along with Summer bird and some of the others this thing is far from being decided.
I'll say this much we may have not seen the best from Summer Bird, I actually thought he could have won by more if he were perfectly handled in the Belmont. In my opinion he will prove to be a better horse than Mine That Bird if he stays healthy.
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Old 07-10-2009, 09:41 AM
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I'll say this much we may have not seen the best from Summer Bird, I actually thought he could have won by more if he were perfectly handled in the Belmont. In my opinion he will prove to be a better horse than Mine That Bird if he stays healthy.
You might be right that we haven't seen the best from him, but didn't he get a perfect trip in the Belmont?
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Old 07-10-2009, 09:42 AM
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You might be right that we haven't seen the best from him, but didn't he get a perfect trip in the Belmont?
Absolutely, positively yes.

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Old 07-10-2009, 11:29 AM
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You might be right that we haven't seen the best from him, but didn't he get a perfect trip in the Belmont?
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Absolutely, positively yes.

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The trip Kent got winning the Suburban with Dry Martini reminded me in an abstract way of his win on Summer Bird in the Belmont. The meltdown in the former, was a lot easier to predict (at least for me), than the new role of pacesetter, and premature MTB, that we saw in the later...
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Old 07-10-2009, 11:35 AM
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The trip Kent got winning the Suburban with Dry Martini reminded me in an abstract way of his win on Summer Bird in the Belmont. The meltdown in the former, was a lot easier to predict (at least for me), than the new role of pacesetter, and premature MTB, that we saw in the later...
I agree with what you're saying but note that Prado rode Dry Martini, and given Prado's patient style, the race played to his strengths.

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Old 07-10-2009, 12:04 PM
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I agree with what you're saying but note that Prado rode Dry Martini, and given Prado's patient style, the race played to his strengths.

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Well, he was channeling Desormeaux.
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Old 07-10-2009, 12:20 PM
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Absolutely, positively yes.

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Hard to believe that some still don't agree.

This is the result of Eric Donovan type trip handicapping. All the OTB patrons follow it and now it's growing on forums.

I suppose, there was a point in the race where SB didn't feel 'comforatble' or maybe Kent had to 'adjust' his nuts and thus had to 'steady' ever so slightly. Those 'steadies', especially when the horse is feeling 'uncomfortable' are mainstays of the ED Trip Handicapping Methodology.

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Old 07-10-2009, 02:55 PM
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You might be right that we haven't seen the best from him, but didn't he get a perfect trip in the Belmont?
Hockey, I am taking the contrarian view rather than the simple publicly perceived viewpoint. I have watched the race enough times from both the Belmont and NBC feeds to come to my own conclusions. I make my own judgments when it comes to horseracing.
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