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Old 07-06-2009, 07:52 PM
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Is that up to you to decide?
You and Andy make a good point. I probably should have just provided the link to the article and not commented on the specific illness.
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Old 07-06-2009, 08:45 PM
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You and Andy make a good point. I probably should have just provided the link to the article and not commented on the specific illness.
Maybe the guy who claimed he had a source in the Frankel barn would have filled us in. Some folks on this forum jump to all sorts of conclusions regarding the health of racing personalities. Jess Jackson looked thin after the Preakness, and some here were ready to start digging his grave.
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Old 07-06-2009, 09:17 PM
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Let me start by wishing Frankel the best. I'm certainly a fan of his.

However, and certainly not unfortunately, we live in an era were information is much more easily disseminated than ever before. So, if Frankel and his family want to keep his condition a secret, they would need to go out of their way to let as few know as possible. Probably a good idea to limit this to family members. Quite of few public figures have 'figured' this out, though not exactly in a timely manner.

If it's around the backstretch, then why would anyone take offense if it reaches the web? And requiring that one needs to first reveal his/her identity before disseminating something that, apparently in this case, quite a few already know really goes against all those 'anonymous sources' that are the staple of many of our news (sports, entertainment, etc.) stories.
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Old 07-06-2009, 09:47 PM
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If it's around the backstretch, then why would anyone take offense if it reaches the web? And requiring that one needs to first reveal his/her identity before disseminating something that, apparently in this case, quite a few already know really goes against all those 'anonymous sources' that are the staple of many of our news (sports, entertainment, etc.) stories.
Yes, the entirety of the Internet is but a mere tributary of the Hollywood Park barn area.

What I think most people took offense to was the self-serving manner in which this thread was started, setting up a "straw man" (ie the DRF article) easily knocked down with the juicy insider info.

Its like if I started a thread with a link to an article about the Michael Jackson autopsy coming back without a cause of death, but prefacing it with, "Died of food poisoning. Ate ten year old weiner."
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Old 07-06-2009, 10:05 PM
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Let me start by wishing Frankel the best. I'm certainly a fan of his.

However, and certainly not unfortunately, we live in an era were information is much more easily disseminated than ever before. So, if Frankel and his family want to keep his condition a secret, they would need to go out of their way to let as few know as possible. Probably a good idea to limit this to family members. Quite of few public figures have 'figured' this out, though not exactly in a timely manner.


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If it's around the backstretch, then why would anyone take offense if it reaches the web? And requiring that one needs to first reveal his/her identity before disseminating something that, apparently in this case, quite a few already know really goes against all those 'anonymous sources' that are the staple of many of our news (sports, entertainment, etc.) stories.
On another internet message board ,a poster posted that an" LA radio program announced on the air Frankel was sick with lymphoma.
So, it seems this information is not as hush-hush as posters here would like to think
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Old 07-06-2009, 10:18 PM
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On another internet message board ,a poster posted that an" LA radio program announced on the air Frankel was sick with lymphoma.
So, it seems this information is not as hush-hush as posters here would like to think

Who even implied it was " hush hush " or anything of the kind? People, at least these days, seem to read what they want to hear.

Just because we now live in a society where people seem to enjoy spreading rumors, some true and many false, in an anonymous venue like the internet, doesn't mean it is appropriate behavior. And, Rupert works in the industry, and I don't think it's unfair to ask him whether or not he would post this kind of rumor if his real name was attached to it. This is certainly a question I ask myself here on a regular basis.

I don't know Bobby Frankel, in fact I've never spoken with him, but I respect his right to privacy as I would respect anyone's. Just because many others don't doesn't make my position wrong.
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Old 07-06-2009, 10:47 PM
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Alot of people on this board are in bad need of a high colonic.

I can't believe how uptight some of you are recently. What's with all the high and mighty bullshat and the holier than thou attitude (BTW, Stone Gossard to name a couple) lately?
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Old 07-06-2009, 11:00 PM
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Alot of people on this board are in bad need of a high colonic.

I can't believe how uptight some of you are recently. What's with all the high and mighty bullshat and the holier than thou attitude (BTW, Stone Gossard to name a couple) lately?

Here's the difference.....I am accountable for what I post.

Plus, I won't ever apologize for respecting the wishes of someone who is gravely ill. If that's " holier than thou " then I can certainly live with it.
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Old 07-07-2009, 08:33 AM
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Alot of people on this board are in bad need of a high colonic.

I can't believe how uptight some of you are recently. What's with all the high and mighty bullshat and the holier than thou attitude (BTW, Stone Gossard to name a couple) lately?

High and mighty? What...because I have an opinion different than yours and others it makes me high and mighty? I am sorry if you can't handle me busting your balls.....but I am far from acting high and mighty.

Salvatore must be going for a Noble Peace Prize for all the charity work with you.
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Old 07-06-2009, 10:48 PM
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Who even implied it was " hush hush " or anything of the kind? People, at least these days, seem to read what they want to hear.

Just because we now live in a society where people seem to enjoy spreading rumors, some true and many false, in an anonymous venue like the internet, doesn't mean it is appropriate behavior. And, Rupert works in the industry, and I don't think it's unfair to ask him whether or not he would post this kind of rumor if his real name was attached to it. This is certainly a question I ask myself here on a regular basis.

I don't know Bobby Frankel, in fact I've never spoken with him, but I respect his right to privacy as I would respect anyone's. Just because many others don't doesn't make my position wrong.
I don't think this Frankel issue is a rumor at all. I've read the same on another message board "filled with CA posters". It was "allegedly" announced on a LA radio program and discussed openly on two other sites by "people who work at the CA tracks".

I agree on the privacy issue, but Frankel is a high profile ,well known public person.
The news that he is sick with lymphoma is difficult to keep quiet, especially when it appears to be a known fact in CA. And to expect this terrible news to remain out of the public consciousness , especially in a horse racing venue, is unrealistic in the 21st century of the internet.
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Old 07-07-2009, 09:28 AM
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I don't think this Frankel issue is a rumor at all. I've read the same on another message board "filled with CA posters". It was "allegedly" announced on a LA radio program and discussed openly on two other sites by "people who work at the CA tracks".

I agree on the privacy issue, but Frankel is a high profile ,well known public person.
The news that he is sick with lymphoma is difficult to keep quiet, especially when it appears to be a known fact in CA. And to expect this terrible news to remain out of the public consciousness , especially in a horse racing venue, is unrealistic in the 21st century of the internet.
This business that Frankel is subject to gossip because he is a high profile personality is just garbage. What ails him is no one's business besides his own, his family and his doctor. That should be enough for anyone. It's not the public's right to know and speculate just because the person works a job in the public eye.

Things you read on message boards and hear on the radio from unverifiable sources do not necessarily make them gospel. I'm not saying the man isn't sick, but it's clear he wants his business to be just that.
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Old 07-06-2009, 10:46 PM
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1) Maybe we are moving toward HIPPA training for everyone. Health care workers have had to examine this with humility and a consistent respect for privacy concerning health matters maybe we should share that training with others.

2) I would be very careful about speculation concerning the prognosis of lymphoma. The many different cell types (Hodgkins vs non-Hodgkins) and various responses to treatment make blanket optimism and pessimism very iffy....

My prayers for Mr Frankel and his family and a hope that all of us are spared such difficult moments in the future.
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Old 07-07-2009, 05:33 AM
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Let me start by wishing Frankel the best. I'm certainly a fan of his.

However, and certainly not unfortunately, we live in an era were information is much more easily disseminated than ever before. So, if Frankel and his family want to keep his condition a secret, they would need to go out of their way to let as few know as possible. Probably a good idea to limit this to family members. Quite of few public figures have 'figured' this out, though not exactly in a timely manner.

If it's around the backstretch, then why would anyone take offense if it reaches the web? And requiring that one needs to first reveal his/her identity before disseminating something that, apparently in this case, quite a few already know really goes against all those 'anonymous sources' that are the staple of many of our news (sports, entertainment, etc.) stories.

Great in some pervented way you are right and then I remember I am a human being and wonder what it must feel like to know your life MAYBE coming to and end. So being right doesn't seem to apply when it could be a matter of life or death.
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