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Old 07-05-2009, 04:07 PM
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I am mindless, true, for bothering to explain myself to a shid stirrer such as yourself, but nevertheless, I will correct your attempts to distort reality.

1. What I did state was that this was a dumb thread. I did not insult you. What is dumb about this thread is that it's such a non issue and people are devoting so much effort to it (including myself). I didn't need to watch the race at that time because it didn't matter. Even if Stauffer had made a biased call, why does that even matter?

2. I just watched the race now because I was watching other replays from the last few days and figured "what the hey, why not see what the fuss is about while I'm here". I saw nothing to fuss about.

3. As I've pointed out previously, I am no fan of any caller. I don't listen to them very much at all, as I can tell where my horse is and how it's moving. While I do have the audio on while watching, it's really just more of a background thing that I pick up very little on.

4. Try and think for myself at times? That one is pretty comical. I can pretty much guarantee you I'm more of an out of the box thinker than you are.

5. Dougie already knows I'm a mindless fool, as evidenced by my attempts to call you out and/or talk reason to you.

Again....more comedy. People can blast Durkin for his Derby call (which I agree with them)....people can blast Denman for the Street Sense call in Bc (again...I agree with them). But god forbid I say anything about VS on here and there is a HUGE uproar.

According to your logic then I guess race callers can say whatever they want and nobody should care?

It's funny....I am willing to bet that if I made a comment about Collmus,Durkin, or any other announcer very few would say a thing. But because VS graces us with his presence on here some bow down to him no matter what.

I wonder if julio pezua posted on here if these same people would demand he be on the hall of fame ballot.
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Old 07-05-2009, 06:34 PM
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Again....more comedy. People can blast Durkin for his Derby call (which I agree with them)....people can blast Denman for the Street Sense call in Bc (again...I agree with them). But god forbid I say anything about VS on here and there is a HUGE uproar.

According to your logic then I guess race callers can say whatever they want and nobody should care?

It's funny....I am willing to bet that if I made a comment about Collmus,Durkin, or any other announcer very few would say a thing. But because VS graces us with his presence on here some bow down to him no matter what.

I wonder if julio pezua posted on here if these same people would demand he be on the hall of fame ballot.
Or, more likely, as many have said, you had no real basis to bash VS like you did (or anyone for that matter). You had a presumed theory and you cited a pretty poor example to back up your argument. If you think Stauffer really is bias get a real example of it.

Otherwise, you deserved to be taken to task on it. You got on someone's case with weak evidence and you got called on it. If you had a real example, I'm sure a lot more people would agree with you, myself included.
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Old 07-05-2009, 06:38 PM
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Or, more likely, as many have said, you had no real basis to bash VS like you did (or anyone for that matter). You had a presumed theory and you cited a pretty poor example to back up your argument. If you think Stauffer really is bias get a real example of it.

Otherwise, you deserved to be taken to task on it. You got on someone's case with weak evidence and you got called on it. If you had a real example, I'm sure a lot more people would agree with you, myself included.

Because some agree with me and some don't, I don't have any concrete evidence? I guess I need 100% approval to be right. Nice thinking there.

If you can't see the bias from that call I am sorry. It's painfully obvious. I guess I should take yours and Bobby fischer's word on this topic.
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Old 07-05-2009, 07:47 PM
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A few questions:

1) Did a thread started by Stonegossard really elicit 200 responses?

2) Is this entire thread really about whether or not Vic's perceived bias is an issue that needs to be dealt with?

3) Did Stonegossard manage to squeak my name in here somewhere?
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Old 07-05-2009, 08:02 PM
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A few questions:

1) Did a thread started by Stonegossard really elicit 200 responses?

2) Is this entire thread really about whether or not Vic's perceived bias is an issue that needs to be dealt with?

3) Did Stonegossard manage to squeak my name in here somewhere?

I did. I actually said something nice about you. I think.
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Old 07-05-2009, 08:09 PM
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What a great thread this has turned into.
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Old 07-05-2009, 10:05 PM
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What a great thread this has turned into.
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Old 07-05-2009, 09:16 PM
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A few questions:

1) Did a thread started by Stonegossard really elicit 200 responses?

2) Is this entire thread really about whether or not Vic's perceived bias is an issue that needs to be dealt with?

3) Did Stonegossard manage to squeak my name in here somewhere?


If this thread brought you out of retirement at least something good happened.

































I'm lying.
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Old 07-05-2009, 09:26 PM
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If this thread brought you out of retirement at least something good happened.


I'm lying.
It's not as much retirement as it is the fact that I thought horse racing ended after the Triple Crown every year.
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Old 07-05-2009, 09:42 PM
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It's not as much retirement as it is the fact that I thought horse racing ended after the Triple Crown every year.

99% of the general public believes horse racing ends with your last blog of the year.
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