Stauffer's call of the 6th tonight.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by stonegossard

So let me get this straight. You come on here before saying I am out of my mind/starting a dumb thread, and now you just watched the race ? Kind of weak on your part. I guess you just blindly follow the VS Fanclub on here or what other people tell you. Try and think for yourself at times.

Douglas is not going to be happy when I report to him that his good friend IC is a mindless fool who can't think for himself.

I am mindless, true, for bothering to explain myself to a shid stirrer such as yourself, but nevertheless, I will correct your attempts to distort reality.

1. What I did state was that this was a dumb thread. I did not insult you. What is dumb about this thread is that it's such a non issue and people are devoting so much effort to it (including myself). I didn't need to watch the race at that time because it didn't matter. Even if Stauffer had made a biased call, why does that even matter?

2. I just watched the race now because I was watching other replays from the last few days and figured "what the hey, why not see what the fuss is about while I'm here". I saw nothing to fuss about.

3. As I've pointed out previously, I am no fan of any caller. I don't listen to them very much at all, as I can tell where my horse is and how it's moving. While I do have the audio on while watching, it's really just more of a background thing that I pick up very little on.

4. Try and think for myself at times? That one is pretty comical. I can pretty much guarantee you I'm more of an out of the box thinker than you are.

5. Dougie already knows I'm a mindless fool, as evidenced by my attempts to call you out and/or talk reason to you.

[Bobby Fischer]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

2. I just watched the race now because I was watching other replays from the last few days and figured "what the hey, why not see what the fuss is about while I'm here". I saw nothing to fuss about.

yea it was very anticlimactic.

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by Bobby Fischer

yea it was very anticlimactic.

That stupidfecta comment I made is still stinging huh?

Let it go man.

[Bobby Fischer]

Originally Posted by stonegossard

That stupidfecta comment I made is still stinging huh?

Let it go man.

no, i thought the racecall was very anticlimactic for the allegations from the original post.

This was an interesting topic. You could have done a better job of presenting a case, but obviously the emotional(not sure of a better word, opinionated?) original post sparked a lot of replies. I thought Steve Byk's reprovement was surprising given the way I took the original post, but maybe he has a point.

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by Bobby Fischer

no, i thought the racecall was very anticlimactic for the allegations from the original post.

This was an interesting topic. You could have done a better job of presenting a case, but obviously the emotional(not sure of a better word, opinionated?) original post sparked a lot of replies. I thought Steve Byk's reprovement was surprising given the way I took the original post, but maybe he has a point.

Ok Judge Wapner....what could I have done differently ?

My original post was unemotional and very to the point. Sorry you missed that.


Now give me a moment. I am going to run head first into the wall , then sit down again so I can continue conversing with you.

[Bobby Fischer]

Originally Posted by stonegossard

Ok Judge Wapner....what could I have done differently ?

My original post was unemotional and very to the point. Sorry you missed that.


Now give me a moment. I am going to run head first into the wall , then sit down again so I can continue conversing with you.

give it a rest

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by Bobby Fischer

give it a rest

I'm back.

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[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

I am mindless, true, for bothering to explain myself to a shid stirrer such as yourself, but nevertheless, I will correct your attempts to distort reality.

1. What I did state was that this was a dumb thread. I did not insult you. What is dumb about this thread is that it's such a non issue and people are devoting so much effort to it (including myself). I didn't need to watch the race at that time because it didn't matter. Even if Stauffer had made a biased call, why does that even matter?

2. I just watched the race now because I was watching other replays from the last few days and figured "what the hey, why not see what the fuss is about while I'm here". I saw nothing to fuss about.

3. As I've pointed out previously, I am no fan of any caller. I don't listen to them very much at all, as I can tell where my horse is and how it's moving. While I do have the audio on while watching, it's really just more of a background thing that I pick up very little on.

4. Try and think for myself at times? That one is pretty comical. I can pretty much guarantee you I'm more of an out of the box thinker than you are.

5. Dougie already knows I'm a mindless fool, as evidenced by my attempts to call you out and/or talk reason to you.

Again....more comedy. People can blast Durkin for his Derby call (which I agree with them)....people can blast Denman for the Street Sense call in Bc (again...I agree with them). But god forbid I say anything about VS on here and there is a HUGE uproar.

According to your logic then I guess race callers can say whatever they want and nobody should care?

It's funny....I am willing to bet that if I made a comment about Collmus,Durkin, or any other announcer very few would say a thing. But because VS graces us with his presence on here some bow down to him no matter what.

I wonder if julio pezua posted on here if these same people would demand he be on the hall of fame ballot.

[Suffolk Shippers]

Originally Posted by stonegossard

Again....more comedy. People can blast Durkin for his Derby call (which I agree with them)....people can blast Denman for the Street Sense call in Bc (again...I agree with them). But god forbid I say anything about VS on here and there is a HUGE uproar.

According to your logic then I guess race callers can say whatever they want and nobody should care?

It's funny....I am willing to bet that if I made a comment about Collmus,Durkin, or any other announcer very few would say a thing. But because VS graces us with his presence on here some bow down to him no matter what.

I wonder if julio pezua posted on here if these same people would demand he be on the hall of fame ballot.

Or, more likely, as many have said, you had no real basis to bash VS like you did (or anyone for that matter). You had a presumed theory and you cited a pretty poor example to back up your argument. If you think Stauffer really is bias get a real example of it.

Otherwise, you deserved to be taken to task on it. You got on someone's case with weak evidence and you got called on it. If you had a real example, I'm sure a lot more people would agree with you, myself included.

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by Suffolk Shippers

Or, more likely, as many have said, you had no real basis to bash VS like you did (or anyone for that matter). You had a presumed theory and you cited a pretty poor example to back up your argument. If you think Stauffer really is bias get a real example of it.

Otherwise, you deserved to be taken to task on it. You got on someone's case with weak evidence and you got called on it. If you had a real example, I'm sure a lot more people would agree with you, myself included.

Because some agree with me and some don't, I don't have any concrete evidence? I guess I need 100% approval to be right. Nice thinking there.

If you can't see the bias from that call I am sorry. It's painfully obvious. I guess I should take yours and Bobby fischer's word on this topic.

[justindew]

A few questions:

1) Did a thread started by Stonegossard really elicit 200 responses?

2) Is this entire thread really about whether or not Vic's perceived bias is an issue that needs to be dealt with?

3) Did Stonegossard manage to squeak my name in here somewhere?

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by justindew

A few questions:

1) Did a thread started by Stonegossard really elicit 200 responses?

2) Is this entire thread really about whether or not Vic's perceived bias is an issue that needs to be dealt with?

3) Did Stonegossard manage to squeak my name in here somewhere?

I did. I actually said something nice about you. I think.

[JerseyJ]

What a great thread this has turned into.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by justindew

A few questions:

1) Did a thread started by Stonegossard really elicit 200 responses?

2) Is this entire thread really about whether or not Vic's perceived bias is an issue that needs to be dealt with?

3) Did Stonegossard manage to squeak my name in here somewhere?

If this thread brought you out of retirement at least something good happened.

































I'm lying.

[justindew]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

If this thread brought you out of retirement at least something good happened.


I'm lying.

It's not as much retirement as it is the fact that I thought horse racing ended after the Triple Crown every year.