Take the global warming test!

[JJP]

I'm just praying they go away.

[ArlJim78]

the biggest scam in history, and they're close to pulling it off.

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

the biggest scam in history, and they're close to pulling it off.

isn't a scam something where someone...say the fossil fuel lobby...wants to fool someone else for financial gain?

i'm looking forward to the explanation of how the climate scientist lobby has managed to pull this one off.

talk about david vs. goliath.

[ArlJim78]

gov is not even looking at the science, they couldn't care less.
the scam is being conducted by the gov and the green lobby.

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

gov is not even looking at the science, they couldn't care less.
the scam is being conducted by the gov and the green lobby.

to what end?

the motivation for obfuscation by the poor underfunded fossil fuel lobby is fairly clear.

i'm still a little fuzzy on the payoff for all the fat cat climate scientists that have managed to buy off the government.

and please stop projecting. just because the right has a war on science doesn't mean the government still does. that ended in january.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

to what end?

the motivation for obfuscation by the poor underfunded fossil fuel lobby is fairly clear.

i'm still a little fuzzy on the payoff for all the fat cat climate scientists that have managed to buy off the government.

and please stop projecting. just because the right has a war on science doesn't mean the government still does. that ended in january.

there is no payoff for fat cat climate scientists, other than additional grants for the ones that keep on providing the right answers.

the right has a war on science? I was not aware of that. I think you're projecting.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

there is no payoff for fat cat climate scientists, other than additional grants for the ones that keep on providing the right answers.

the right has a war on science? I was not aware of that. I think you're projecting.

Probably because you are not in a scientific field. I am. Yes, the "right" -most notably the Bush administration - indeed had "a war on science". No additional grants for anyone under the Bush administration, no matter what their answers were.

And thank goodness that's over and done with now. One of the major reasons I voted for Obama.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

gov is not even looking at the science, they couldn't care less.the scam is being conducted by the gov and the green lobby.

Yes - most of what has been released in the past few months by the current administration was investigative science done under the eight years of the Bush administration, but squelched and ignored there.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by Riot

Yes - most of what has been released in the past few months by the current administration was investigative science done under the eight years of the Bush administration, but squelched and ignored there.

sounds like a good idea. science should not be used to justify social engineering.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

sounds like a good idea. science should not be used to justify social engineering.

No, religion has been most commonly used for that.

BTW, the GOP "Crashing the party train into oblivion 2009" national tour continues:

www.dailybeast.com

" Note to Republicans: Racist “humor,” the Internet, and political ambitions don’t mix. Audra Shay, vice chairman of the Young Republicans and the leading candidate to be elected its chairman on Saturday, is now the latest in a growing list of GOP officials learning this lesson the hard way, based on pictures of a now-deleted Facebook page obtained by The Daily Beast."

Sigh ... I may have to take back all the promising things I've said about the future of the GOP lately.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

the biggest scam in history, and they're close to pulling it off.

I hate to say I told you so, but...

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

I hate to say I told you so, but...

...but....you read the recent article in Science which demonstrates that the polar ice caps are actually melting even FASTER than previously believed?
Or not?
Certainly you aren't giving validity to the argument that this "Climategate" controvery somehow PROVES that all of the evidence regarding climate change is fabricated?

Originally Posted by miraja2

...but....you read the recent article in Science which demonstrates that the polar ice caps are actually melting even FASTER than previously believed?
Or not?
Certainly you aren't giving validity to the argument that this "Climategate" controvery somehow PROVES that all of the evidence regarding climate change is fabricated?

Are you worried because you can't swim?

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by miraja2

...but....you read the recent article in Science which demonstrates that the polar ice caps are actually melting even FASTER than previously believed?
Or not?
Certainly you aren't giving validity to the argument that this "Climategate" controvery somehow PROVES that all of the evidence regarding climate change is fabricated?

what do you take from it when one of the main research facilties is caught trying to perpetrate a hoax, to project their own agenda on others. who do we believe? all I have ever said is to be skeptical and don't be a follower, especially when there are huge special interests that have backed the accepted AGW theory.

nobody can prove anything concerning the research from the East Anglia facility. there was never ANY credible peer review. why? they dumped all the raw data. let me repeat, THEY DO NOT HAVE THE RAW DATA. all that they have to offer is the comical and complicated rube goldberg sham that they tried to massage for years. It is a fundamental rule of research and scientific study to preserve the raw data. its inexcusable for them to now say they dumped it. sounds to me like they're covering their tracks.

I'm interested in the science, and I don't see any here. I didn't read the article in Science about the ice caps. climate change exists, nobody disputes that. climate is not static.

it is very very complicated, that is all i know. so when i see charlatans pumping their fists and advocating swift emergency action and that the debate is over I just laugh.