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yes 40 28.37%
no 101 71.63%
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Old 07-04-2009, 05:30 PM
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Conflict of Interest? Would an example of that be when threads about certain people get closed, and threads about others don't get closed?
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Old 07-04-2009, 07:18 PM
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Wow,

Quite a day for Vic & Joel
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Old 07-04-2009, 11:22 PM
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So far...


71% NO



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Old 07-04-2009, 11:35 PM
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Conflict of Interest by definition: A conflict of interest occurs when an individual or organization (such as a policeman, lawyer, insurance adjuster, politician, engineer, executive, director of a corporation, medical research scientist, physician, writer, editor, or any other entrusted individual or organization) has an interest that might compromise their actions. The presence of a conflict of interest is independent from the execution of impropriety.

Vic Stauffer-Track Announcer at Hollywood Park.
Joel Rosario-Jockey at Hollywood Park.
Vic Stauffer-Jockey Agent for Joel Rosario at Hollywood Park.

I believe that his interest in Joel Rosario's performance has the potential to compromise his actions as Hollywood Park Track Announcer. Clear as day to me. But it looks like the 44 No voters are smarter than us 18 yes voters and defy the logic of what a Conflict of Interest is.
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Old 07-05-2009, 07:04 AM
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Conflict of Interest by definition: A conflict of interest occurs when an individual or organization (such as a policeman, lawyer, insurance adjuster, politician, engineer, executive, director of a corporation, medical research scientist, physician, writer, editor, or any other entrusted individual or organization) has an interest that might compromise their actions. The presence of a conflict of interest is independent from the execution of impropriety.

Vic Stauffer-Track Announcer at Hollywood Park.
Joel Rosario-Jockey at Hollywood Park.
Vic Stauffer-Jockey Agent for Joel Rosario at Hollywood Park.

I believe that his interest in Joel Rosario's performance has the potential to compromise his actions as Hollywood Park Track Announcer. Clear as day to me. But it looks like the 44 No voters are smarter than us 18 yes voters and defy the logic of what a Conflict of Interest is.
You need to give it a rest.
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Old 07-05-2009, 08:31 AM
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It's a track announcer that doesn't influence anything other than how a race is called. Horses can't understand humans last I heard and jocks, at best, hear a race call in the last furlong and if anyone thinks they are really listening at that point..well..

I have no interest in or have ever met Stauffer, Rosario or for that matter, anyone who is really involved here, but there is a serious hard on for Vic that I don't get. As someone told me yesterday, listening to Durkin sob as Birdstone sweeps by to win the Belmont was far more offensive and insulting to the connections of Birdstone than anything that Stauffer is accused of.
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Old 07-05-2009, 10:22 AM
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Changing topics somewhat is there a conflict when a track owner or executive has a horse entered at their facility?
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Old 07-05-2009, 11:50 AM
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It's a track announcer that doesn't influence anything other than how a race is called. Horses can't understand humans last I heard and jocks, at best, hear a race call in the last furlong and if anyone thinks they are really listening at that point..well..

I have no interest in or have ever met Stauffer, Rosario or for that matter, anyone who is really involved here, but there is a serious hard on for Vic that I don't get. As someone told me yesterday, listening to Durkin sob as Birdstone sweeps by to win the Belmont was far more offensive and insulting to the connections of Birdstone than anything that Stauffer is accused of.
Bob while I really could give a flying fcuk about the whole topic. One thing is 100% true, there is ZERO chance a race caller will ever be an active agent again. Vic is only allowed to do this because his track is closing and his direct reports dont give a fcuk either. No how no way would Vic's practice be allowed to continue in any other jurisdiction. But again who care!!!

Vic could have ended this thread with one simple line. Pete, I will listen to the call again and see if I did much wrong. I certainly wasnt trying to be partial but maybe I did? I will have my direct reports listen and get back to youif need be.. Thx for listening Vic(end of thread and hats off to Vic).. instead Victoria came for dinner which created all the fun..
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Old 07-07-2009, 10:12 AM
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I don't know if the jockeys can hear the race call or not but couldnt he provide helpful information regarding splits or other competitors on the move and where they are on the track?
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Old 07-07-2009, 10:16 AM
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I don't know if the jockeys can hear the race call or not but couldnt he provide helpful information regarding splits or other competitors on the move and where they are on the track?
They can hear. Riders have told me about how they would hear Trevor announcing a horse making a move from behind them. That's when the track would have lots of people. With the couple of hundred or thousand they have now, I'm sure they can hear the race call. How much that influences their decisions is something else. Now this is where I could see there being a problem.
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