shaq to the Cavs

cowgirlintexas · #1 07-01-2009, 10:46 AM

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How the f.uck do you know? Video chat?

Get your head out of the live cam private rooms,Coachy-poo.

It's the 21st century...

Gee, you people are easy to rile.

Cannon Shell · #2 07-01-2009, 08:02 PM

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200....ap/index.html

Who the hell are they gonna hire to coach this team? Jerry Tarkanian, Paul Westhead or Doug Moe?

King Glorious · #3 07-01-2009, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200....ap/index.html

Who the hell are they gonna hire to coach this team? Jerry Tarkanian, Paul Westhead or Doug Moe?

Doug Collins maybe. Maybe Bill Laimbeer. Maybe this is why Laimbeer just up and quit on the Detroit WNBA team like that.

dalakhani · #4 07-01-2009, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious

Doug Collins maybe. Maybe Bill Laimbeer. Maybe this is why Laimbeer just up and quit on the Detroit WNBA team like that.

Poor Curry never had a chance. As close to a sacrificial lamb as you can get in sports. Not to say that he was any good but really how do we know?

I like the moves. Laimbeer would be an interesting choice.

King Glorious · #5 07-01-2009, 10:54 PM

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Poor Curry never had a chance. As close to a sacrificial lamb as you can get in sports. Not to say that he was any good but really how do we know?

I like the moves. Laimbeer would be an interesting choice.

I think the move of sending Hamilton to the bench is what did him in. I think he could have been forgiven for the record. Everyone knew once they made the trade for Iverson that it was a move for the future and that they were hoping that they could stay competitive while re-tooling. The Hamilton deal though, I think that is what brought this to an end. This move though to bring in the new guys, this is what I have been expecting. They weren't going to do anything with Billups this year and this way, they get to move back into the top half of the conference without having to really bottom out. Without making that move, they wouldn't be in the position to get these guys and improve.

SniperSB23 · #6 07-01-2009, 11:09 PM

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I think the move of sending Hamilton to the bench is what did him in.

Yeah, you don't come in as a new coach with a veteran team and then go after the most respected veteran. Even Mike Singletary went after Vernon Davis who was a lazy ultratalented punk and all of his teammates knew it. If Singletary came in and went after Isaac Bruce, Walt Harris, or Takeo Spikes does anyone think that wouldn't have backfired on him? And he was Mike fricken Singletary.

Cannon Shell · #7 07-01-2009, 11:28 PM

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Yeah, you don't come in as a new coach with a veteran team and then go after the most respected veteran. Even Mike Singletary went after Vernon Davis who was a lazy ultratalented punk and all of his teammates knew it. If Singletary came in and went after Isaac Bruce, Walt Harris, or Takeo Spikes does anyone think that wouldn't have backfired on him? And he was Mike fricken Singletary.

There is no way that that move wasn't signed off on by Dumars. They did him a favor by firing him because I can't possibly see how the two guys they signed are going to do much other than tie up a lot of money for a long time. Gordon is a one dimensional shooter and CV is Derrick Coleman light. Realistically those two replaced AI and Rasheed. Not exactly a huge move up nor does it get them out of the first round.

Cannon Shell · #8 07-01-2009, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani

Poor Curry never had a chance. As close to a sacrificial lamb as you can get in sports. Not to say that he was any good but really how do we know?

I like the moves.

why?

dalakhani · #9 07-02-2009, 08:04 AM

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why?

I like the moves because they are realistic. They Know they have a better chance of getting mickey mouse to suit up and play in motown than they do of getting wade, bosh or lebron.

Villanueva will turn 25 this year and he averaged 16 and 7 in 27 minutes a game. What do you mean with the derrick coleman thing? On top of that, you get him for slightly more than the anticipated midlevel exception.

Gordon can score with anyone in the league. I think this could signal a move to trade hamilton or stuckey.

Cannon Shell · #10 07-02-2009, 09:48 AM

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I like the moves because they are realistic. They Know they have a better chance of getting mickey mouse to suit up and play in motown than they do of getting wade, bosh or lebron.

Villanueva will turn 25 this year and he averaged 16 and 7 in 27 minutes a game. What do you mean with the derrick coleman thing? On top of that, you get him for slightly more than the anticipated midlevel exception.

Gordon can score with anyone in the league. I think this could signal a move to trade hamilton or stuckey.

There are other players that will be available other than those three. While there is nothing wrong individually with Gordon or CV they are huge defensive liabilities and strange fits for a team without an identity. Trading Hamilton is not going to be easy with his contract, the trend of everyone cutting expenses and the needs of serious contenders. Derrick Coleman was a talented offensive player who routinely took weeks off of playing with any intensity. CV is a similar player. He is a good scoring big man but doesn't give you much other than that. For $40 million I would want a bit more especially with a team that has some issues in the frontcourt.

If they were signing with a team with a big star who is an undisputed top dog like Kobe or Lebron or a team with a strong head coach like Jackson or Sloan maybe I would feel like they had a chance to be more successful. But Detroit isnt not much better than they were last year with them and that isn't nearly good enough.