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Old 06-29-2009, 09:11 PM
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Old 06-29-2009, 09:13 PM
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Kidd to Lakers?
Would be a horrible move.

How about Yao Ming possibly out all season and maybe done for his career?
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Old 06-29-2009, 09:17 PM
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Would be a horrible move.

How about Yao Ming possibly out all season and maybe done for his career?
I think Kidd instead of Fisher would be an improvement especially for what it will take to get him which wont be that much.

That sucks for Yao and Houston. The guy is just so freakin big.
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Old 06-29-2009, 09:21 PM
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I think Kidd instead of Fisher would be an improvement especially for what it will take to get him which wont be that much.

That sucks for Yao and Houston. The guy is just so freakin big.
While Kidd in his prime is a hall of famer, he's way past his prime now. He has never been able to shoot. At least Fisher can knock down a few at times. And if Laker fans were horrified at Fisher's defense on Williams and Brooks in the playoffs, watching Kidd try to guard those guys might make you want to rip out your eyeballs. He can't do it anymore. And the thing with Fisher is that he doesn't need to dominate the ball. Kidd still does. I don't think he fits with what the Lakers have at all.
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Old 06-29-2009, 09:42 PM
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Kidd is a huge improvement.

No comparison in my mind. None.
Kidd can work in multiple lineups, Fisher cannot.
Kidd can do the majority of the ball handling,
Fisher cannot.

Please say it aint so.
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Old 06-29-2009, 09:45 PM
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While Kidd in his prime is a hall of famer, he's way past his prime now. He has never been able to shoot. At least Fisher can knock down a few at times. And if Laker fans were horrified at Fisher's defense on Williams and Brooks in the playoffs, watching Kidd try to guard those guys might make you want to rip out your eyeballs. He can't do it anymore. And the thing with Fisher is that he doesn't need to dominate the ball. Kidd still does. I don't think he fits with what the Lakers have at all.
Not consistently.
But I would like you to take a look at the % for the mavs beyond the arc.
You like stats.
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Old 06-29-2009, 09:58 PM
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Not consistently.
But I would like you to take a look at the % for the mavs beyond the arc.
You like stats.
Kidd is still good at getting guys good shots. That's a skill he'll never lose. But the Lakers run an offense that it's not necessary to have a true point guard. They've never had one. None of the Bulls championship teams had one either. Even when they had BJ Armstrong, the offense still went mostly through Pippen and Jordan. Having a guy that needs to dominate the ball at the position takes away from the strengths of that offense. I'm not saying that Kidd isn't still a better player than Fisher. But just because he's a better player doesn't mean he's a better fit for this team. With the Lakers, Bryant and Odom handle the ball more than the point guards do anyway and do more initiating of the offense. Having Kidd doing that will take away from the mismatches that Bryant and Odom create. And again, Kidd on the defensive end against these small, quick guards, makes Fisher look like Kidd used to. I'd love Kidd in a place like Orlando or Golden State. Not so much in LA though.
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Kidd is still good at getting guys good shots. That's a skill he'll never lose. But the Lakers run an offense that it's not necessary to have a true point guard. They've never had one. None of the Bulls championship teams had one either. Even when they had BJ Armstrong, the offense still went mostly through Pippen and Jordan. Having a guy that needs to dominate the ball at the position takes away from the strengths of that offense. I'm not saying that Kidd isn't still a better player than Fisher. But just because he's a better player doesn't mean he's a better fit for this team. With the Lakers, Bryant and Odom handle the ball more than the point guards do anyway and do more initiating of the offense. Having Kidd doing that will take away from the mismatches that Bryant and Odom create. And again, Kidd on the defensive end against these small, quick guards, makes Fisher look like Kidd used to. I'd love Kidd in a place like Orlando or Golden State. Not so much in LA though.
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Old 06-29-2009, 09:43 PM
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I think Kidd instead of Fisher would be an improvement especially for what it will take to get him which wont be that much.

That sucks for Yao and Houston. The guy is just so freakin big.
It was a matter of time.
He has gotten a bit further than I personally expected.
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