Cap and Trade vote on Friday

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Actually this is wrong.

In the 1970s concerned environmentalists like Stephen Schneider of the National Center for Atmospheric Research in Boulder, Colorado feared a return to another ice age due to manmade atmospheric pollution blocking out the sun.

Since about 1940 the global climate did in fact appear to be cooling. Then a funny thing happened-- sometime in the late 1970s temperature declines slowed to a halt and ground-based recording stations during the 1980s and 1990s began reading small but steady increases in near-surface temperatures. Fears of "global cooling" then changed suddenly to "global warming"


http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/ice_ages.html

Yes, yes, yes.

I can find so many more the other way.
Its silly to keep up the charade.

THE CONSENSUS is clearly over at least the last 50 years the average temp. of the Earth's atmosphere has increased.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by pgardn

Yes, yes, yes.

I can find so many more the other way.
Its silly to keep up the charade.

THE CONSENSUS is clearly over at least the last 50 years the average temp. of the Earth's atmosphere has increased.

It is factual data, not opinions

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

It is factual data, not opinions

That site you put up is so politically motivated
it is laughable. Bogus cubed.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by pgardn

That site you put up is so politically motivated
it is laughable. Bogus cubed.

What is not true?? Show me a fact posted that is not true. It is hardly a mainstream source. Simply saying that it is biased without a single example why is stupid. It is simply not coming up with the hypthesis that you like therefore it is wrong. Again I ask you Mr climate expert, refute something in there if it is wrong.

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

What is not true?? Show me a fact posted that is not true. It is hardly a mainstream source. Simply saying that it is biased without a single example why is stupid. It is simply not coming up with the hypthesis that you like therefore it is wrong. Again I ask you Mr climate expert, refute something in there if it is wrong.

Caution: This section contains sound science, not media hype, and may therefore contain material not suitable for young people trying to get a good grade in political correctness.

Are you kidding?


When crap like this starts a SCIENCE explaination, I stop reading.
The funny thing is I am a skeptic also. But not brainwashed.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by pgardn

Caution: This section contains sound science, not media hype, and may therefore contain material not suitable for young people trying to get a good grade in political correctness.

Are you kidding?


When crap like this starts a SCIENCE explaination, I stop reading.
The funny thing is I am a skeptic also. But not brainwashed.

That is your problem. The FACT is that if you show science that does not walk in lockstep with the global warming police you ARE held to be politically incorrect. You Sniper and Riot are perfect examples of this despite the fact that none of you (myself included) have any area of expertise to draw a differing opinion from. The FACT is that unless you have your head buried in the sand you will see that those who dare to present evidence against the global warming army are cast out. Perhaps if you read the report you may educate yourself about the subject and from the content of your posts that is an area that you could use some help in. I am hardly brainwashed. However I am skeptical and listen to both sides of the issue. The fact that I happen to lean to the other side doesnt make me brainwashed, it may make me right.

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

That is your problem. The FACT is that if you show science that does not walk in lockstep with the global warming police you ARE held to be politically incorrect. You Sniper and Riot are perfect examples of this despite the fact that none of you (myself included) have any area of expertise to draw a differing opinion from. The FACT is that unless you have your head buried in the sand you will see that those who dare to present evidence against the global warming army are cast out. Perhaps if you read the report you may educate yourself about the subject and from the content of your posts that is an area that you could use some help in. I am hardly brainwashed. However I am skeptical and listen to both sides of the issue. The fact that I happen to lean to the other side doesnt make me brainwashed, it may make me right.

Yes you are a witch and should be burned at the stake.
The experts that we both read... The VAST majority of
the experts have said that the earth is in a warming trend.

I have had THE EXACT argument with a fellow teacher.
His father is in the petrol business. I have looked at so
many graphs levels of atmospheric readings, oh this study
did not take this into account etc... And then you give me
that crap to read?

So you dont believe the Earth is in a warming period, therefore
it is impossible man could not have caused any warming because their is no
warming.

The above is your conclusion based on all the stuff you have read?
ALL the stuff, not just what you want to read.