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Old 06-24-2009, 08:26 AM
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Thats a good question. You would take a proven mediocrity for a player that could be any kind?
I don't consider a guy that can get me 16 and four assists a night as mediocrity. There are maybe 20-25 guys in the league that score more. It's not a superstar by any means but I don't see it as mediocrity. If they were to take a guy like Harden or Evans or DeRozan, I don't see any of those guys being better. Potential can go either way. I'd rather take a guy that's proven over one that at best, shows the potential only to be slightly better. We see potentially great players every year that don't pan out. Recently, look at guys like Adam Morrison, JJ Redick, Corey Brewer, Brandon Wright, Jerryd Bayless, Martell Webster, Gerald Green, Eddie Griffin, Stromile Swift, Darius Miles...the list goes on and on. All of those guys were higher regarded than Harden, Evans, and De Rozan and none of them has become much of anything. When you are a team that's at or near the top and you aren't needing a guy to come in right away and produce, you can take a chance with getting one of these high potential guys over a proven NBA producer and wait for him to develop. When you are a team like the Wizards, you can't.
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Old 06-24-2009, 08:59 AM
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I don't consider a guy that can get me 16 and four assists a night as mediocrity. There are maybe 20-25 guys in the league that score more. It's not a superstar by any means but I don't see it as mediocrity. If they were to take a guy like Harden or Evans or DeRozan, I don't see any of those guys being better. Potential can go either way. I'd rather take a guy that's proven over one that at best, shows the potential only to be slightly better. We see potentially great players every year that don't pan out. Recently, look at guys like Adam Morrison, JJ Redick, Corey Brewer, Brandon Wright, Jerryd Bayless, Martell Webster, Gerald Green, Eddie Griffin, Stromile Swift, Darius Miles...the list goes on and on. All of those guys were higher regarded than Harden, Evans, and De Rozan and none of them has become much of anything. When you are a team that's at or near the top and you aren't needing a guy to come in right away and produce, you can take a chance with getting one of these high potential guys over a proven NBA producer and wait for him to develop. When you are a team like the Wizards, you can't.
I get your point although i dont know where JJ Redick was more highly regarded than any of those guys but the point stands.

It really comes down to what you think of Foye. If you think he was scoring 16 despite playing on a bad team, you make the trade. If you think it was because he was on a bad team, you don't.

For the wizards, I still don't see the sense. They now have about 8 guards under contract. Where do they find minutes for all these guys? If you are starting foye, it would appear that you have some serious defensive problems with him and arenas in the backcourt.

I think this trade is the pre cursor to another move. At least...i hope so.
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Old 06-24-2009, 09:10 AM
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I get your point although i dont know where JJ Redick was more highly regarded than any of those guys but the point stands.

It really comes down to what you think of Foye. If you think he was scoring 16 despite playing on a bad team, you make the trade. If you think it was because he was on a bad team, you don't.

For the wizards, I still don't see the sense. They now have about 8 guards under contract. Where do they find minutes for all these guys? If you are starting foye, it would appear that you have some serious defensive problems with him and arenas in the backcourt.

I think this trade is the pre cursor to another move. At least...i hope so.
I think Miller would start and Foye would be 1st guard off the bench. It is a pretty good three man backcourt. Harden is not a NBA star quality player. He is more of a Larry Hughes type. While they avoid paying a big contract by trading the pick they are a better team this year, maybe good enough to be a 4/5 seed in the playoffs and potentially in the mix for a big time FA next year if they can shed a little more cap space. They have to avoid injuries though which is hard to predict. I have to go to KY division of motor vehicles now so I'll talk to you guys again after the draft when i get back.
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