6/21 (WO): Queen's Plate (R); Singspiel (G3); Highlander S. (G3)

[Bobby Fischer]

im hoping Mr. Nightlinger gets heavily bet.

This is a unique turf course(outside the main track), and the distance is even a little farther than he has been going.

[eajinabi]

Interesting Mike Smith gets a mount and Chantal Sutherland doesn't. He gets the mount on a horse she rode before. Akward.

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by eajinabi

Interesting Mike Smith gets a mount and Chantal Sutherland doesn't. He gets the mount on a horse she rode before. Akward.

and he almost stole a million dollar race, thats not all that easy.

[eajinabi]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

and he almost stole a million dollar race, thats not all that easy.

Ya, I bet him. I really thought he would steal it but the winner was very game.

[CSC]

The race didn't look too particularily fast to me, I'm not sure we will be hearing alot from these in the future in the U.S, though Eye of The Leopard has a right to improve with abit more experience.

I thought Tasty Temptation had another tough trip today, though she is not as good as I probably thought she was, I'm sure trackus will validate she ran further than any other horse today. The Jockey who I thought was pretty good, has been very mediocre of late despite the 20+ win %. That was a pretty lame ride having her uncovered in the 4 path all the way around...

[eajinabi]

I hope Russel Baze has a good time touring Toronto while he is there.

[Bobby Fischer]

well, it was QP day, so i guess that is one of their feature cards.

but that was really a great handicapper's card

[Round Pen]

Originally Posted by CSC

The race didn't look too particularily fast to me, I'm not sure we will be hearing alot from these in the future in the U.S, though Eye of The Leopard has a right to improve with abit more experience.

I thought Tasty Temptation had another tough trip today, though she is not as good as I probably thought she was, I'm sure trackus will validate she ran further than any other horse today. The Jockey who I thought was pretty good, has been very mediocre of late despite the 20+ win %. That was a pretty lame ride having her uncovered in the 4 path all the way around...

CSC do you know of anyway to find this Information Out or if you do find it out could you post it for me I would be interested to see it.

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by Round Pen

CSC do you know of anyway to find this Information Out or if you do find it out could you post it for me I would be interested to see it.

While WO utilizes Trakus, they don't have Trakus data on their site (the way KEE does, for example). This information is posted after the replay of the race is shown, however. Otherwise, you'll have to buy it from Trakus.

But this situation is so obvious that you don't need an exact number to appreciate how badly this filly has been abused her last two efforts. Go to calracing.com, and fire up the HEADON replays for her last two races. She's widest on the 1st turn last out, widest on the backstretch WITHOUT COVER, and outside the winner on the 2nd turn. It wouldn't be a stretch to project her as the winner yesterday with a comparable trip to that of the winner (who didn't exactly get the best one, either).

What I fail to comprehend is WHY her connections continue to allow Husbands to abuse her this way. Perhaps they're bought into the wise tale that she needs to run outside of horses. (This one is particularly hard for old time race trackers and even trip handicappers to let go of.) But, this isn't the dirt and it seems that the WO jockeys all ride that way. (Check out Beckon breaking down Oliver's Strike earlier in the week with a similar trip as an example. Too bad Husbands walked away from that one.) In any event, I doubt she'll make it through the summer. And these idiots have lost two huge purses, and some nice prestige, in the interim. And they're senselessly beating on a filly that does nothing but run her heart out for them. What a ****in joke.

But this is a decidedly TRAKUS UNFRIENDLY forum, so keep all this on the sly.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by Round Pen

CSC do you know of anyway to find this Information Out or if you do find it out could you post it for me I would be interested to see it.

I'll have to look into it, it was reported prior to the Plate that Tasty Temptation ran 46 feet farther than the winner in the Oaks according to trackus. An interesting stat and a new way of looking at things which I found interesting.