The Great Republican Hope

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Emergency health care? Oh you mean the kind where hypochondriacs abuse on an epic scale? Yeah lets expand health care to all hypochondriacs...not just the ones on medicaid.

Anyone who enjoys going to see an overpaid parasite in a white coat is ill. You take away the money, and maybe 5% of them would be there for the love of helping sick people. I have no idea why anyone would go see them anymore than required by horrible pain, or disgusting disease. Oh, no I remember now. They have to go to beg them to refill a prescription. If they want to cut the price of health care, they could stop making people go in to have God o.k. every fkn bottle of anything useful. If you want to know why people go to the Doctor too much, it's because God usually doesn't put refills on the bottle of anything that might be remotely useful. It's not because the Doctor is doing anything delightful for their health in that room. Does anybody get refills on their bottles of antibiotics? You're lucky.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Anyone who enjoys going to see an overpaid parasite in a white coat is ill. You take away the money, and maybe 5% of them would be there for the love of helping sick people. I have no idea why anyone would go see them anymore than required by horrible pain, or disgusting disease. Oh, no I remember now. They have to go to beg them to refill a prescription. If they want to cut the price of health care, they could stop making people go in to have God o.k. every fkn bottle of anything useful. If you want to know why people go to the Doctor too much, it's because God usually doesn't put refills on the bottle of anything that might be remotely useful. It's not because the Doctor is doing anything delightful for their health in that room. Does anybody get refills on their bottles of antibiotics? You're lucky.

Your views of doctors are incredible. Do you really think that only 5% do it for the love of their job? If so, this is as cynical as you've ever been.

NT

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Your views of doctors are incredible. Do you really think that only 5% do it for the love of their job? If so, this is as cynical as you've ever been.

NT

Hell bankers make a whole lot more money than Doctors and arent nearly as smart or dedicated. Of course under the Obama plan neither of them will make any money.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Hell bankers make a whole lot more money than Doctors and arent nearly as smart or dedicated. Of course under the Obama plan neither of them will make any money.

Au contraire...Obama is doing just fine for bankers. Actually, we LOVE him. Are you joking?

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Your views of doctors are incredible. Do you really think that only 5% do it for the love of their job? If so, this is as cynical as you've ever been.

NT

Power, money, prestige, exclusivity etc. are the reasons they usually choose that profession. The teaching profession at least has a lot of people in it that went into it because they like to teach.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Power, money, prestige, exclusivity etc. are the reasons they usually choose that profession. The teaching profession at least has a lot of people in it that went into it because they like to teach.

Generalize much?

When I saw you replied I was hoping it'd be to the actual doctor who posted in the thread.

NT

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Generalize much?

When I saw you replied I was hoping it'd be to the actual doctor who posted in the thread.

NT

http://www.artinthepicture.com/paint...te-aux-Bocaux/

Well, as far as that lil rant(you're talking about) goes, I think if this guy was his patient, then he'd of said the same thing to him. He suffered from 1)exhaustion, 2)insomnia and 3)depression. None of that would of showed up on Doc's trusted blood tests. On March 16, 1955 he committed suicide. He leapt to his death from his eleventh story studio terrace. He was 41 years old. If it ain't easy to fix, or it's "vague," then blame it on the patients disgusting character. It's too damn much trouble.

I dont understand why Republicans just dont
say Bozo the conservative could win the 2012
election.

Especially since the economy will clearly tank as
Obama is driving this country deep into debt. The
economy will be so bad all we need is a monkey.

I dont get it.
The Republicans dont need to worry about a candidate,
they will be back in office because the economy will
fail.

Should this not be the line?

[dalakhani]

[quote=pgardn]
Especially since the economy will clearly tank as
Obama is driving this country deep into debt.
I dont get it.
QUOTE]

Ummmm...I read an article in yahoo today and it said the economy was already in the tank and had gone there way before Obama got into office. I read another one in the national enquirer that said the deficit was in the trillions before he took office as well... but im not sure whether to believe that one or not.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

http://www.artinthepicture.com/paint...te-aux-Bocaux/

Well, as far as that lil rant(you're talking about) goes, I think if this guy was his patient, then he'd of said the same thing to him. He suffered from 1)exhaustion, 2)insomnia and 3)depression. None of that would of showed up on Doc's trusted blood tests. On March 16, 1955 he committed suicide. He leapt to his death from his eleventh story studio terrace. He was 41 years old. If it ain't easy to fix, or it's "vague," then blame it on the patients disgusting character. It's too damn much trouble.

So this is how the conversation has gone:

1.) You made ANOTHER attack on doctors, this time calling them parasites in white coats who do it for all types of reasons except loving their jobs.

2.) I asked you if you really believed such nonsense.

3.) Your obvious bad experience with a physician was questioned by an actual physician, who also informed you that his is a labor of love.

4.) Rather than reply to doc you decided to cop out and say that he made it personal.

5.) Now you link to a story of a French artist who died from various causes that you claim doctors can't determine.

It's safe to say that you will continue to make gross generalizations, use stereotypes and find minutia to fit your agenda. I'm not a doctor and I'm sorry if you had a bad experience with one, but I'm even sorrier if that bad experience has led you to believe what you do about doctors. Much like people in every other profession, they're not all the same.

NT

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Rather than reply to doc you decided to cop out and say that he made it personal.
NT

He didn't ask me a question. He made a statement (a full-diaper rant.) Why are you involved? You his f'n nurse?

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Power, money, prestige, exclusivity etc. are the reasons they usually choose that profession. The teaching profession at least has a lot of people in it that went into it because they like to teach.

I dont know Scuds...is that fair? How can you definitively say what one's motivations are for choosing a particular career? Isnt that a personal thing? Wouldnt that vary from individual to individual?

i can think of lot easier ways to achieve power, money, prestige and exclusivity. Remember-undergrad, med school, residency, blah, blah blah...thats a lot of school and a lot of work.

Why wouldnt they just go trade bonds?

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

I dont know Scuds...is that fair? How can you definitively say what one's motivations are for choosing a particular career? Isnt that a personal thing? Wouldnt that vary from individual to individual?

i can think of lot easier ways to achieve power, money, prestige and exclusivity. Remember-undergrad, med school, residency, blah, blah blah...thats a lot of school and a lot of work.

Why wouldnt they just go trade bonds?

I just don't think very many are doing it for the satisfaction of helping sick people. As far as banking goes, I don't remember that as one of the main professions that kids are told "the brightest" go into.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

I just don't think very many are doing it for the satisfaction of helping sick people. As far as banking goes, I don't remember that as one of the main professions that kids are told "the brightest" go into.

you didnt say anything about bright. You said "power, money, prestige, exclusivity".

If a person were looking for those things and didnt care about helping people, why would they want to be a doctor? All that school and all that work.

I can think of a bunch of careers off the top of my head where they could get all of the things you are talking about (power, money, prestige, exclusivity) and it wouldnt cost them 12 years and a quarter million dollars in student loans.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

you didnt say anything about bright. You said "power, money, prestige, exclusivity".

I said "etc." To me, it's the same as prestige. A lot of smart people go into this profession because it's considered a smart people's profession.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

you didnt say anything about bright. You said "power, money, prestige, exclusivity".

If a person were looking for those things and didnt care about helping people, why would they want to be a doctor? All that school and all that work.

I can think of a bunch of careers off the top of my head where they could get all of the things you are talking about (power, money, prestige, exclusivity) and it wouldnt cost them 12 years and a quarter million dollars in student loans.

You're right. They'd become a politician ie a Bush, a Kennedy etc.

[docicu3]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Anyone who enjoys going to see an overpaid parasite in a white coat is ill. You take away the money, and maybe 5% of them would be there for the love of helping sick people. I have no idea why anyone would go see them anymore than required by horrible pain, or disgusting disease. Oh, no I remember now. They have to go to beg them to refill a prescription. If they want to cut the price of health care, they could stop making people go in to have God o.k. every fkn bottle of anything useful. If you want to know why people go to the Doctor too much, it's because God usually doesn't put refills on the bottle of anything that might be remotely useful. It's not because the Doctor is doing anything delightful for their health in that room. Does anybody get refills on their bottles of antibiotics? You're lucky.

For years now on here I have seen this offensive tirade of yours demean my profession because you are not getting what you are convinced you deserve.

As you continue to blame ever physician that has had the misfortune of treating you for the imperfections of how you feel, you continue to insult every caregivers motivations, compensation and morals because you don't feel like you have enough energy, are happy enough, sleep soundly to your satisfaction or carry the physical strength you are convinced you are guaranteed in this life.

Well......

After growing up in a ghetto that promised and gave nothing but heartache as the product of public education that allowed me the opportunity after high school to borrow and pay back over 20 years 250K at 18% (Regan) for the purpose of paying for my own medical education. This allowed me to donate 6 more years of my life to acquire the experience and training to see my first patient 10 years after college if I could pass the rigorous testing for board certification. So after making the largest wager I will ever make on my own education I am able to finally charge for my services.

And yes, over the next 20 years I have given away tens if not hundreds of thousands of dollars in services I have never tried to collect for patients who needed my services but couldn't afford to pay any bill no matter how small. But at no time in 20 years, during a patient contact have I experienced such a disgusting, never ending display of greed and lack of gratitude for the efforts of the physicians who have tried to help you with your every vague subjective complaint.

Nothing will ever solve your internal discomfort, no amount of refills, office visits, free health insurance or physician time will make you feel any better than you don't today. You will always blame others for your own lot in life because anything else would focus attention where it belongs and you could never handle that.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by docicu3

For years now on here I have seen this offensive tirade of yours demean my profession because you are not getting what you are convinced you deserve.

As you continue to blame ever physician that has had the misfortune of treating you for the imperfections of how you feel, you continue to insult every caregivers motivations, compensation and morals because you don't feel like you have enough energy, are happy enough, sleep soundly to your satisfaction or carry the physical strength you are convinced you are guaranteed in this life.

That is why I don't meet people from this board. You write something that somebody doesn't like, and they're gunna get as personal as they can.