The Great Republican Hope

dalakhani · #1 06-13-2009, 08:21 AM

At least the republicans on this site have long given up the futile efforts to rally around Sarah and promote her as viable.

The sad part is that their is not a single person that Republicans CAN promote.

Right now it is a steel cage match between Newt, dick, rush and sarah.

dellinger63 · #2 06-13-2009, 08:29 AM

3 yrs ago no one outside of IL knew who Obama was. Maybe some remember a convention speech.

Trouble is here in IL we knew who he was and the people he surrounded himself with. Of course those guys now are either being quiet, are spewing anti semetic nonsense or are locked up in Federal Custody.

dalakhani · #3 06-13-2009, 08:41 AM

But Dellinger, your post here and every other post you make does nothing but cast a big shining light on my original point. Your only answer these days is to talk about reverends and witch doctors, etc. That is the problem with the republican party.

If Pepsi wants to sell drinks, it has to show why it is the best drink and make people feel like drinking it is better than drinking any other drink on the planet and we will like what are drinking. Right now, The republican message is simply that coke tastes bad and we shoud drink pepsi or we are doomed.

What is the republican message? Who is delivering it?

You can't answer that question and none of your brethren can either. And until you can, the party will remain dysfunctional.

dellinger63 · #4 06-13-2009, 08:51 AM

c'mon who was the speaker for the Dems prior to Obama? The Clintons? The guy ran against a lame duck candidate with his biggest premise Oh I mean promise being HOPE whatever that is. When we dance again I think 'it's the economy stupid' saying may come out again only it will be coming from us. But until then I'll live as a socialist.

Just wish we could make our checks to the IRS in the amount of HOPE.

Riot · #5 06-13-2009, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63

c'mon who was the speaker for the Dems prior to Obama? The Clintons? The guy ran against a lame duck candidate with his biggest premise Oh I mean promise being HOPE whatever that is. When we dance again I think 'it's the economy stupid' saying may come out again only it will be coming from us. But until then I'll live as a socialist.

Just wish we could make our checks to the IRS in the amount of HOPE.

Bush ran the first time on "change and hope"

dalakhani · #6 06-13-2009, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63

3 yrs ago no one outside of IL knew who Obama was. Maybe some remember a convention speech.

Trouble is here in IL we knew who he was and the people he surrounded himself with. Of course those guys now are either being quiet, are spewing anti semetic nonsense or are locked up in Federal Custody.

ummm...it was over 4 years ago that Obama spoke at the DNC. LOL

dellinger63 · #7 06-13-2009, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani

ummm...it was over 4 years ago that Obama spoke at the DNC. LOL

most people on the street couldn't identify a picture of Biden or Chaney so how many remember the speech? And I meant most people as in 'some people' remember the DNC speech, which I know was more than 3 yrs ago. That's why I said it.......

dalakhani · #8 06-13-2009, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63

most people on the street couldn't identify a picture of Biden or Chaney so how many remember the speech? And I meant most people as in 'some people' remember the DNC speech, which I know was more than 3 yrs ago. That's why I said it.......

That speech energized the democrats and gave a huge boost going into the next election. He was their star in the making and if it wasnt going to be 2008, it was obvious that somewhere along the way Obama would be a big voice in the party.

Where is that Republican voice?

dellinger63 · #9 06-13-2009, 09:05 AM

In my head

dellinger63 · #10 06-13-2009, 09:06 AM

and why are you so concerned about the Rep. voice?

dalakhani · #11 06-13-2009, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63

In my head

Dell, we are the polar opposite on views but i really like you and your dog is adorable!

Cheers!

Riot · #12 06-13-2009, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani

At least the republicans on this site have long given up the futile efforts to rally around Sarah and promote her as viable.

The sad part is that their is not a single person that Republicans CAN promote.

Right now it is a steel cage match between Newt, dick, rush and sarah.

Here's an interesting, hopeful article: http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-a...d=bs:archive15

I agree, the GOP needs to start looking for leaders among strong, respected intellectuals and people with deep policy strengths.

Sarah Palin and her ilk are only useful for firing up and creating ignorant but angry mobs. Not what's needed in politics. Her ridiculous "rise up!" call to people over David Letterman has sealed her fate as never-ready-for-prime-time-voice in the GOP.

The GOP can reinvent itself by adhering, not to guns and religion, but to ideas.

Danzig · #13 06-13-2009, 11:43 AM

if sarah palin is the future of the rep party, it should dismantle today. hell, they may as well trot out dan quayle while they're at it.

it seems right now that the face of the party is a whacky triumvirate of old men, ultra-right religious zealots, and the female equivalent of george bush. that's what palin is, really-the intelligence of george bush in an attractive package.

Riot · #14 06-13-2009, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

if sarah palin is the future of the rep party, it should dismantle today. hell, they may as well trot out dan quayle while they're at it.

it seems right now that the face of the party is a whacky triumvirate of old men, ultra-right religious zealots, and the female equivalent of george bush. that's what palin is, really-the intelligence of george bush in an attractive package.

Sarah Palin isn't as smart as George Bush

I like McKinnon's political blog, I think he has good ideas. Here's another, "The Next Republican President"

http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-a...sa:moreauthor1

Danzig · #15 06-13-2009, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot

Sarah Palin isn't as smart as George Bush

I like McKinnon's political blog, I think he has good ideas. Here's another, "The Next Republican President"

http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-a...sa:moreauthor1

i'm not impressed with the thought processes of either one of them, hence my comparison.

SCUDSBROTHER · #16 06-13-2009, 12:42 PM

I think the majority of Americans back OBAMA's ideas on the big issues we face. That's not the same as being willing to pay for those ideas to be put into action. Realistically, I think people want to share the risk to make sure they aren't the ones who are financially devastated by a one-time health care nightmare. A lot of people who think they have health care insurance do go on to get financially devastated when their insurance has capped limits, or whatever. People want something done about that. I don't think most want all Americans to have access to good health care. I think they want all Americans to have access to emergency health care. Americans like to have people below themselves. There is no "look out for other members of the race" thinking that is present in the countries that are mainly made up of one ethnic group. So, I do see the country going back the other way. I think he will serve 2 terms(if he isn't shot or crippled by white trash,) but I think he will have lost control of both the Senate n' House when he leaves.

#17 06-13-2009, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

I think the majority of Americans back OBAMA's ideas on the big issues we face. That's not the same as being willing to pay for those ideas to be put into action. Realistically, I think people want to share the risk to make sure they aren't the ones who are financially devastated by a one-time health care nightmare. A lot of people who think they have health care insurance do go on to get financially devastated when their insurance has capped limits, or whatever. People want something done about that. I don't think most want all Americans to have access to good health care. I think they want all Americans to have access to emergency health care. Americans like to have people below themselves. There is no "look out for other members of the race" thinking that is present in the countries that are mainly made up of one ethnic group. So, I do see the country going back the other way. I think he will serve 2 terms(if he isn't shot or crippled by white trash,) but I think he will have lost control of both the Senate n' House when he leaves.

Emergency health care? Oh you mean the kind where hypochondriacs abuse on an epic scale? Yeah lets expand health care to all hypochondriacs...not just the ones on medicaid.