There's no stars in racing? Is that right?

[sumitas]

You come up to the FLakes we will knock you out . Put you on queer street street where you belong.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

You sure told him.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by sumitas

You come up to the FLakes we will knock you out . Put you on queer street street where you belong.

Nobody goes to Finger Lakes except horses hinding from the kill wagon.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by sumitas

we're wise to your bullshit. get ****in bent .

Oh

Originally Posted by sumitas

you are stupid and losers. get a real job.

My

Originally Posted by sumitas

You come up to the FLakes we will knock you out . Put you on queer street street where you belong.

God.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Some Grade A Douchebaggery smack talk.

The only thing he could have done better was to threaten him with a date.

June 21st is coming FUCCKOS!!!!!

[docicu3]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Some Grade A Douchebaggery smack talk.

The only thing he could have done better was to threaten him with a date.

June 21st is coming FUCCKOS!!!!!

What happens on June 21st for those of us who didn't buy a program or TiVo this event?

[miraja2]

I'm not sure if this was the exact point Steve was trying to make or not, but it seems that if a horse like Einstein does win three straight G1s on three different surfaces (just to name one example) it seems logical to celebrate that accomplishment as a fairly remarkable one, within the context of the sport today. Instead of always focusing on how a variety of factors have changed the context of the game - and the expectations of individual horses - perhaps it makes some sense to spend a bit more time appreciating (and perhaps celebrating and promoting) those horses whose accomplishment stands out in today's game, even if - again, just for example - we are fully aware that Einstein would have been no match for John Henry on any surface.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by miraja2

I'm not sure if this was the exact point Steve was trying to make or not, but it seems that if a horse like Einstein does win three straight G1s on three different surfaces (just to name one example) it seems logical to celebrate that accomplishment as a fairly remarkable one, within the context of the sport today. Instead of always focusing on how a variety of factors have changed the context of the game - and the expectations of individual horses - perhaps it makes some sense to spend a bit more time appreciating (and perhaps celebrating and promoting) those horses whose accomplishment stands out in today's game, even if - again, just for example - we are fully aware that Einstein would have been no match for John Henry on any surface.

very true. but the thing is with eintein- everyone recognizes him for what he is. no one is on here saying he's the best thing since sliced bread. the over the top hyperbole on some of todays best is what some people have trouble with-rachel being compared to ruffian for example. that she's her equal, or when people say she's the best since ruffian. she's neither.
but i don't see how, by my saying that, it would offend a new fan, or cause them to leave the sport.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by Danzig

very true. but the thing is with eintein- everyone recognizes him for what he is. no one is on here saying he's the best thing since sliced bread. the over the top hyperbole on some of todays best is what some people have trouble with-rachel being compared to ruffian for example. that she's her equal, or when people say she's the best since ruffian. she's neither.
but i don't see how, by my saying that, it would offend a new fan, or cause them to leave the sport.

I agree with all of this.
But I do think there is a point when all of the cynicism and negativity directed at today's top horses from many in-the-know people can be a bit too much. Now, I realize that such negative reactions are often provoked by the ridiculous statements of owners like Jackson, analysts like Tessitore, and many members of the horse racing message board community....and while I too wish those people wouldn't make some of their outrageous statements, perhaps horse racing fans would be better served recognizing the accomplishments of a horse like Curlin, rather than constantly reminding everybody that compared to Easy Goer, Curlin was a donkey.
I also realize the irony in me, of all people, criticizing negativity and cynicism. I mean I actually started the thread comparing Curlin to Easy Goer and Sunday Silence in order to demonstrate the superiority of the latter pair. But all that being said, I still think Byk might have a point here.

[johnny pinwheel]

Originally Posted by miraja2

I agree with all of this.
But I do think there is a point when all of the cynicism and negativity directed at today's top horses from many in-the-know people can be a bit too much. Now, I realize that such negative reactions are often provoked by the ridiculous statements of owners like Jackson, analysts like Tessitore, and many members of the horse racing message board community....and while I too wish those people wouldn't make some of their outrageous statements, perhaps horse racing fans would be better served recognizing the accomplishments of a horse like Curlin, rather than constantly reminding everybody that compared to Easy Goer, Curlin was a donkey.
I also realize the irony in me, of all people, criticizing negativity and cynicism. I mean I actually started the thread comparing Curlin to Easy Goer and Sunday Silence in order to demonstrate the superiority of the latter pair. But all that being said, I still think Byk might have a point here.

its not even about any of that crap. these people do that trash talk no matter what. RACING HAS SYSTEMIC PROBLEMS. the greed makes for early retirements. the number of tracks offering large stakes purses lets the good horses avoid each other to run in "walk overs". the poly tracks lead to problems of making horses unwilling to travel. instead of stars you get regional champions. then when they DO meet its meaningless because some horses have an advantage of running on their perrferred surface. its all watered down, thats why theres a "star" problem.

[slotdirt]

I'm sorry, but are we so NY-centric around here that when someone refers to "Cabrera" - you know, Miguel Cabrera, the best hitter in baseball in the non-Albert Pujols category - folks automatically think we're talking about motherf-ing Melky Cabrera? Come on out from under the rock, people!

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Oh


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God.

Elle Oh Elle!

Originally Posted by sumitas

You come up to the FLakes we will knock you out . Put you on queer street street where you belong.