The Dedgradation of the American Dialogue

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

Maybe you could not view it in such a superficial, knee-jerk, black-white/right-left/blame point of view?

I think alot of that article is a bit exaggerated, but the part below is right on, and is the reason why I posted it.

What do you think about the below, the POINT of the article?

"There was a time when decency, even honor, was an essential part of the American dialogue in its most ideal form, and part of its very identity. There was a time when our culture would have recoiled in horror at the vituperation flowing unchecked from radios, televisions, and the Internet, instead of applauding it as "common sense," "free speech," or "mavericky," or "a spin-free zone."

"There was a time when intellectual honesty was not considered unpatriotic; when compassion for, and understanding of, your fellow man was a sign of strength, not weakness. There was a time when the phrase Have you no shame? meant something, and the First Amendment was not used as toilet paper to wipe up the excremental verbal degradation of vulnerable segments of the American population. A time when it was expected that citizens would understand the difference between free speech and irresponsible speech. "

I agree with some of that part except it is wrapped around the message that somehow only Conservative views are radicalized. This is hardly a plea for sanity. It is a totally partisan column found on a totally partisan website. Just saying a few things about our society that are unfortunately true doesn't hide the true intent of the writer which is to cast stones at the right using horrible tragedies as a baseline. Of course you can continue to think that this is a middle of the road viewpoint and that you arent a liberal too.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I agree with some of that part except it is wrapped around the message that somehow only Conservative views are radicalized. This is hardly a plea for sanity. It is a totally partisan column found on a totally partisan website. Just saying a few things about our society that are unfortunately true doesn't hide the true intent of the writer which is to cast stones at the right using horrible tragedies as a baseline. Of course you can continue to think that this is a middle of the road viewpoint and that you arent a liberal too.

Sigh ... okay, once again, can you try to ignore the wrapper, and casting it as right-left, black-white argument, and look at the meat, the point of the article?

Can you leave politics out of it, and ignore that part, and talk about the point of it?

And again, you really have to stop making imaginary crap up out of thin air regarding other people. I obviously don't think this is a middle of the road viewpoint, as you might notice that in the message you are answering I already said I think much of the article is exaggerated. And sorry, I'm not a liberal, either.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

Sigh ... okay, once again, can you try to ignore the wrapper, and casting it as right-left, black-white argument, and look at the meat, the point of the article?

Can you leave politics out of it, and ignore that part, and talk about the point of it?

And again, you really have to stop making imaginary crap up out of thin air regarding other people. I obviously don't think this is a middle of the road viewpoint, as you might notice that in the message you are answering I already said I think much of the article is exaggerated. And sorry, I'm not a liberal, either.

The point of the article is to take shots at the GOP. If you cant see that...

Why would i leave politics out of an article that clearly is political? The writer isnt lamenting the degradation of American dialogue. he is lamenting the GOP's dialogue. Perhaps if he had included one of the Msnbc nut jobs in there too i could take his points as non political in nature.

If the article is slanted politically by your own admission, why would i "leave the politics out of it"?

And you are not only a liberal...you are a flaming liberal.

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

And you are not only a liberal...you are a flaming liberal.

I don't know much about anything other than Cleveland sports...but with the extreme liberal media that exists, when exactly did the word "liberal" become a bad thing?? Something so bad, that nearly every single democrat today runs screeching at fear for being called a "liberal". This is a word thrown out all the time meant to be a demeaning thing. Why exactly is that??

What is a liberal?? The media has been called "liberal". What does that mean? Was William Buckley liberal simply because he wrote newspaper articles?? Is this Glenn Beck guy liberal because he is on TV and radio?? Rush Limbaugh is a liberal because he does a radio show?? Because by classic definition, the media is absolutely controlled by these liberals. I mean completely controlled. I could go on with Sean Hannity and others. But if these guys are by strict defnition liberals...who are the conservatives within the media?? So Rachel Maddow and Michael Savage are the same because both are media entities??

I have great trouble understanding these discussions in this section which is why I never post in this section. The media is a liberal construct. Educate me.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

when exactly did the word "liberal" become a bad thing??
This is a word thrown out all the time meant to be a demeaning thing. Why exactly is that?.

Here's the Sarah Palin campaign stop test:

What does not fit with "liberal"?
A. Muslim
B. Terrorist
C. Media
D. American

Now, the saddest thing I saw, the other day, was some media wonks making Hitler out to be a liberal. So they could associate Obama with him. It was pathetic these people had access to public airways.

Frankly, I think that people today simply are not very educated, and throw words out there whether they fit or not.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Riot

Here's the Sarah Palin campaign stop test:

What does not fit with "liberal"?
A. Muslim
B. Terrorist
C. Media
D. American

Now, the saddest thing I saw, the other day, was some media wonks making Hitler out to be a liberal. So they could associate Obama with him. It was pathetic these people had access to public airways.

Frankly, I think that people today simply are not very educated, and throw words out there whether they fit or not.

tsk, tsk.......so much hyperbole...so little time!