Belmont Beyers

[Bobby Fischer]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

So do you also believe that Jazil should have got about a 110 figure in his Belmont? He ran almost the same time as Summer Bird and I don't think the track was anywhere near as fast.

Beyers at seldom run distances are largely useless and every dirt Beyer has the chance it will be heavily impacted by pace. The 100 for this year is probably right while the higher figure for Rags and Curlin was one that was fudged to account for the slow pace (which is something that should either be consistently done or never done rather than done selectively).

technically, yea.
I'd like to see a consistent approach where the horse's name is meaningless. The only thing that should matter is the final time, and how fast the track was playing.

So we should be able to compare historical belmonts if we have an accurate measure of how fast the track was each time.

100 might actually be one of the more accurate beyer scores for recent Belmonts, but then a race like R2R's should receive around a 95...
I don't believe in adjusting Beyers for pace at all.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Bobby Fischer

technically, yea.
I'd like to see a consistent approach where the horse's name is meaningless. The only thing that should matter is the final time, and how fast the track was playing.

So we should be able to compare historical belmonts if we have an accurate measure of how fast the track was each time.

100 might actually be one of the more accurate beyer scores for recent Belmonts, but then a race like R2R's should receive around a 95...
I don't believe in adjusting Beyers for pace at all.

Then I pretty much agree with you.