6/6 (HOL): Whittingham (G1); Ack Ack (G3); Redondo Beach

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They should bring Lava Man out of retirement for that Whittingham.

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1 1/4 Miles (Inner turf) | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $400,000

1 Marsh Side Castellano J J 117 L
2 Court Vision Dominguez R A 120 L
3 Premium Gold Prado E S 113 L
4 Gio Ponti Gomez G K 120 L
5 Champs Elysees (GB) Leparoux J R 119 L
6 Optimer (ARG) Rodriguez R R 110 L
7 Wesley Desormeaux K J 116 L
8 Senior Luzzi M J 112 Blk-Off L
9 Better Talk Now Rose J 117 L
10 Cosmonaut Lezcano J 116 L
11 Interpatation Maragh R 114 L
12 Lauro (GER) Starke A 117 L
13 Cowboy Cal Velazquez J R 120 L
14 Zambezi Sun (GB) Leparoux J R 116 L

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9TH (4:40) Charles Whittingham Memorial H. (G1)

1 1/4 Miles (Turf) | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $300,000

1 Union Avenue Bejarano R 114 L
2 Midships Espinoza V 118 L
3 Liquidity Baze T C 112 L
4 Globetrotter Talamo J 113 L
5 Madeo Smith M E 119 L
6 Artiste Royal (IRE) Rosario J 118 L

Side by side comparision, it's almost not fair both races are rated the same status. Crazy...!

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Originally Posted by CSC

1 1/4 Miles (Inner turf) | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $400,000

1 Marsh Side Castellano J J 117 L
2 Court Vision Dominguez R A 120 L
3 Premium Gold Prado E S 113 L
4 Gio Ponti Gomez G K 120 L
5 Champs Elysees (GB) Leparoux J R 119 L
6 Optimer (ARG) Rodriguez R R 110 L
7 Wesley Desormeaux K J 116 L
8 Senior Luzzi M J 112 Blk-Off L
9 Better Talk Now Rose J 117 L
10 Cosmonaut Lezcano J 116 L
11 Interpatation Maragh R 114 L
12 Lauro (GER) Starke A 117 L
13 Cowboy Cal Velazquez J R 120 L
14 Zambezi Sun (GB) Leparoux J R 116 L

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9TH (4:40) Charles Whittingham Memorial H. (G1)

1 1/4 Miles (Turf) | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $300,000

1 Union Avenue Bejarano R 114 L
2 Midships Espinoza V 118 L
3 Liquidity Baze T C 112 L
4 Globetrotter Talamo J 113 L
5 Madeo Smith M E 119 L
6 Artiste Royal (IRE) Rosario J 118 L

Side by side comparision, it's almost not fair both races are rated the same status. Crazy...!

do they have planes in NY, that looks like easy money to me. Liquidity, Union Avenue is woefully average and Madeo is better at a mile, Artiste Royal is ok at best. Midships is decent.

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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

do they have planes in NY, that looks like easy money to me. Liquidity, Union Avenue is woefully average and Madeo is better at a mile, Artiste Royal is ok at best. Midships is decent.

Frankel is a legendary handicapper, therefore I wonder why he didn't bother splitting up ZS and CE unless he wants to enhance MS's chances, that's just about the biggest discrepency in similar grade 1's on the same day that I can remember.

EDIT - It's also a little strange to see Better Talk Now without Ramon on him, wonder if this will be his last Manhattan. One of his more memorable races was in this race when he snaked through the field to just get up beating Shakis among others.

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Originally Posted by CSC

Frankel is a legendary handicapper, therefore I wonder why he didn't bother splitting up ZS and CE unless he wants to enhance MS's chances, that's just about the biggest discrepency in similar grade 1's on the same day that I can remember.

well the 2, 4, 5, 13, 14 all raced out west before, seems like you would go for the easiest spot to cash, there is no value in future breeding winning either race.

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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

well the 2, 4, 5, 13, 14 all raced out west before, seems like you would go for the easiest spot to cash, there is no value in future breeding winning either race.

Agreed. The positive is we have an intriguing race in the Manhattan though. Maybe Frankel is losing his marbles...

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So is friggen Shirreffs going to stop running Madeo at 10 furlongs, he does not want to go that far?