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Old 05-27-2009, 08:55 PM
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You are just being silly and stubborn now but i think its funny. Rafer scored 18 and 26 on successive nights. If lebron is lined up against the poiint, he cant cover the point so im right. If he is playing a one man zone, which you denied earlier in the thread, you were wrong again. Lebron can't guard point guards. Period. Even bad ones like Alston. Thats why as soon as he started scoring, they switched lebron off so someone could play honest defense. Rafer had 26 chuck. Rafer alston. Think about that.

If you dont see lebron lower his shoulder, then i have another link for you: www.lenscrafter.com
At what point does he lower his shoulder? When he is falling after making contact with the defensive player. It is a foul.
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Old 05-27-2009, 09:09 PM
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At what point does he lower his shoulder? When he is falling after making contact with the defensive player. It is a foul.
If it were a foul, how come the other refs arent making the call? Only the back ref blew the whistle. If it were such an obvious call, where were the other refs? I realize the back ref is supposed to follow the ball, but the ref underneath the basket doesnt blow the whistle and the call was made in the paint. I know that is a little advanced for you but try to understand.

He lowered his shoulder before he brushed him and fell because there wasnt any contact. Why else did he fall forward? LOL. The call is done and there is no use deliberating over it. The statement that the call is "obvious" is just dumb.
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Old 05-27-2009, 09:20 PM
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If it were a foul, how come the other refs arent making the call? Only the back ref blew the whistle. If it were such an obvious call, where were the other refs? I realize the back ref is supposed to follow the ball, but the ref underneath the basket doesnt blow the whistle and the call was made in the paint. I know that is a little advanced for you but try to understand.

He lowered his shoulder before he brushed him and fell because there wasnt any contact. Why else did he fall forward? LOL. The call is done and there is no use deliberating over it. The statement that the call is "obvious" is just dumb.
This is your new defense? The other refs didnt make the call? The ref that made the call was right there maybe 10 feet away. The other two refs are on the opposite side of the court. It was an obvious foul and the correct ref who made it. You cant trip up a guy driving to the basket and expect not to have a foul called. Stop the clip at 119 and you can clearly see Pietrus leg between James legs.
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Old 05-27-2009, 09:31 PM
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This is your new defense? The other refs didnt make the call? The ref that made the call was right there maybe 10 feet away. The other two refs are on the opposite side of the court. It was an obvious foul and the correct ref who made it. You cant trip up a guy driving to the basket and expect not to have a foul called. Stop the clip at 119 and you can clearly see Pietrus leg between James legs.
Are you blind? Good eye for horses, what happens with the roundball?

One blog's take:

James and the Cleveland Cavaliers even were saved by the referees at the end of regulation. With just seconds left in the fourth quarter James drove to his right. The stop-action video allows the viewer to see James two steps above the top of the key, dribbling with his right hand. With his left hand James attempts a stiff-arm of Michael Pietrus to clear him to his left as he begins to plant and go right with his dribble. But the stiff-arm attempt fails. James begins a dash to the right side of the lane but picks up his dribble a step before the foul line. He takes the ball, raises it with both hands and shoves his left elbow into Michael Pietrus’ chin. Pietrus grimaces as he is falling backwards. Two frames later James thinks he has planted with his left foot but in fact catches his left toe on the court and falls forward into Pietrus. James falls first. As his body is parallel with the court, there is no contact between Pietrus’ body and James’. LeBron loses the ball out of bounds. But even as the ball tumbles away James has already turned toward the official to complain.

The only contact made on the play was initiated by James and his elbow knocking Pietrus backward. Other than that, nothing of Michael Pietrus’ body touches LeBron James. NBA referees receive around $300,000 to differentiate between split-second acts like these. But in that moment it was judged that Pietrus somehow fouled the already falling James.

LeBron converted both foul shots to tie the game at 100 apiece.

One-half second of playing time later Anderson Varejao was riding up under a leaping Dwight Howard to ensure he did not receive an inbounds and lay the ball in all in one motion.

No foul was called and the game went to overtime.
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Old 05-27-2009, 09:43 PM
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So we play ifs and buts,
candy and nuts.

IF Lebron James had missed that last FT
with 0.5 seconds left, Anderson V. would have
tipped it in and the game would have been over.
He was right there in perfect position.
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Old 05-27-2009, 09:49 PM
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Are you blind? Good eye for horses, what happens with the roundball?

One blog's take:

James and the Cleveland Cavaliers even were saved by the referees at the end of regulation. With just seconds left in the fourth quarter James drove to his right. The stop-action video allows the viewer to see James two steps above the top of the key, dribbling with his right hand. With his left hand James attempts a stiff-arm of Michael Pietrus to clear him to his left as he begins to plant and go right with his dribble. But the stiff-arm attempt fails. James begins a dash to the right side of the lane but picks up his dribble a step before the foul line. He takes the ball, raises it with both hands and shoves his left elbow into Michael Pietrus’ chin. Pietrus grimaces as he is falling backwards. Two frames later James thinks he has planted with his left foot but in fact catches his left toe on the court and falls forward into Pietrus. James falls first. As his body is parallel with the court, there is no contact between Pietrus’ body and James’. LeBron loses the ball out of bounds. But even as the ball tumbles away James has already turned toward the official to complain.

The only contact made on the play was initiated by James and his elbow knocking Pietrus backward. Other than that, nothing of Michael Pietrus’ body touches LeBron James. NBA referees receive around $300,000 to differentiate between split-second acts like these. But in that moment it was judged that Pietrus somehow fouled the already falling James.

LeBron converted both foul shots to tie the game at 100 apiece.

One-half second of playing time later Anderson Varejao was riding up under a leaping Dwight Howard to ensure he did not receive an inbounds and lay the ball in all in one motion.

No foul was called and the game went to overtime.
I read a blog today that is convinced the North Korea will launch a nuclear attack on South korea this December. i must have missed the above post there.

If you wrote a blog you could say the same thing and also be wrong.
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Old 05-27-2009, 09:57 PM
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I read a blog today that is convinced the North Korea will launch a nuclear attack on South korea this December. i must have missed the above post there.

If you wrote a blog you could say the same thing and also be wrong.
The blog isnt supposed to prove im "right". It simply stated my position better than i could. Its just interesting that there is so much written and said about a call that you say was so obvious. I did a search and there are like a zillion hits on how bogus the call was. Does it make me right? no. There is no right or wrong. Official makes the call and it is what it is. But obvious? Thats just a dumb statement especially when two other on court officials didnt even make a move to blow the whistle.
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Old 05-27-2009, 10:05 PM
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The blog isnt supposed to prove im "right". It simply stated my position better than i could. Its just interesting that there is so much written and said about a call that you say was so obvious. I did a search and there are like a zillion hits on how bogus the call was. Does it make me right? no. There is no right or wrong. Official makes the call and it is what it is. But obvious? Thats just a dumb statement especially when two other on court officials didnt even make a move to blow the whistle.
So much was written? Where on Orlandomagicfan.com? The call was obvious. There was no hesitation by the ref who had a perfect view of the play. Did that ref not have a perfect angle? Was he the only one in on the Lebron James conspiracy? James was already 75% by him in frame 118. in frame 119 the guys leg is between james. In frame 120 he is falling down. why is this hard to see?
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