I'm watching the draw, here we go folks - Page 2

Pointg5 · #21 06-07-2006, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Thunder Gulch

I disagree on Sunriver. He closed into a paceless race last time and made a move at Gulfstream on a day when nobody made up any ground. His only ugly race was in the slop. All considered, I think he has as good of a shot as any, though the price won't be very generous.

What's Sunriver going to do in another paceless race going against classier horses, not much. If he wasn't a full brother to Ashado and trained by Pletcher, he would never get this much attention. He's lucky to be a Graded Stakes Winner, the Peter Pan was an awful group.

Exceller · #22 06-07-2006, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Thunder Gulch

You are reading the form upside down...good shot for last if Platinum Couple runs better.

I guess you haven't seen him recently. He can run all day and he has the fastest times of anyone in the race over this track and will love a wet track.

Cajungator26 · #23 06-07-2006, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Exceller

I guess you haven't seen him recently. He can run all day and he has the fastest times of anyone in the race over this track and will love a wet track.

He's never been over a mile. I'll take my chances going against him.

dr. fager · #24 06-07-2006, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26

He's never been over a mile. I'll take my chances going against him.

what was the preakness goob

Cajungator26 · #25 06-07-2006, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by dr.fager

what was the preakness goob

High Finance didn't run in the Preakness.

dr. fager · #26 06-07-2006, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26

High Finance didn't run in the Preakness.

lol, all I saw was Platinum Couple's name..

kentuckyrosesinmay · #27 06-07-2006, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Pointg5

What's Sunriver going to do in another paceless race going against classier horses, not much. If he wasn't a full brother to Ashado and trained by Pletcher, he would never get this much attention. He's lucky to be a Graded Stakes Winner, the Peter Pan was an awful group.

Sunriver just won the Peter Pan, and had a very good Florida Derby. He was only a few lengths away from the eventual KD winner in that race. I am going to use him because I just can't pass up a nice, improving Pletcher horse.

#28 06-07-2006, 03:44 PM

Yes zito has had one win. He also has a 51% in the money ratio from his fifteen starters in the belmont stakes. hes 15-1-6-1.Some of the horses were Andomedas hero for second last year. first and third in 2004 with birdstone and royal assault.

#29 06-07-2006, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Dixie Porter

You'll EAT this ONE.......

no way he will eat that. The horse is too slow to win the race, life and death to beat lewis micheal. How can people say Bob and John has a shot and looks like a stayer!?!? What?!?! Look at the wood please, another chalk throwout. Bluegrass Cat is a true threat.

contenders
bluegrass cat
deputy glitters
jazil
oh so awesome
steppenwolfer

teases
hemingway's key
high Finance
Sacred Light

pretenders
bob and john
sunriver

what are you doing in this race
double galore
Platinum Couple

#30 06-07-2006, 03:55 PM

The belmont isnt even going to be the most exciting race to see imo. All the undercard stakes except the Acorn look to be more interesting than the belmont.

slotdirt · #31 06-07-2006, 04:03 PM

Have to admit to feeling relatively clueless on this race...just going to study and bet away.

jpops757 · #32 06-07-2006, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Dixie Porter

You'll EAT this ONE.......

Sun was cranked for his last and was all oit to get by Mike.Belmont will be a regresion. Pletcher has the Cat ready for this one. If we can get enough to look at Suns big sister and the layers that are in love with the deep closers it may give a little more playable odds with the Cat. BaJ is the bigest threat. Ive got to look at Oh some more but he could be the suprise horse.

Suffolk Shippers · #33 06-07-2006, 05:47 PM

Bob and John is a non contender unless UNLESS the 40 days and 40 nights of rain here on the East Coast persists. If it does, you have to at least pay attention to his Wood in similar conditions.

Danzig · #34 06-07-2006, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt

Have to admit to feeling relatively clueless on this race...just going to study and bet away.

lol
i LOVE your signature.

#35 06-07-2006, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by jpops757

Sun was cranked for his last and was all oit to get by Mike.Belmont will be a regresion. Pletcher has the Cat ready for this one. If we can get enough to look at Suns big sister and the layers that are in love with the deep closers it may give a little more playable odds with the Cat. BaJ is the bigest threat. Ive got to look at Oh some more but he could be the suprise horse.

Do you really think Sunriver was cranked for the Peter Pan? That was off a 7-week layoff, with the Belmont being his ultimate goal. If anything, the fact he closed into that slow pace and still won makes it more impressive to me.
He is not my key horse for the Belmont, but I'm not tossing him on his Peter Pan effort.

Thunder Gulch · #36 06-07-2006, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by david1025

Yes zito has had one win. He also has a 51% in the money ratio from his fifteen starters in the belmont stakes. hes 15-1-6-1.Some of the horses were Andomedas hero for second last year. first and third in 2004 with birdstone and royal assault.

Thanks.. that's actually better than I remembered. The last two have been good for his overall record.

Thunder Gulch · #37 06-07-2006, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by belmont park is the best

no way he will eat that. The horse is too slow to win the race, life and death to beat lewis micheal. How can people say Bob and John has a shot and looks like a stayer!?!? What?!?! Look at the wood please, another chalk throwout. Bluegrass Cat is a true threat.

contenders
bluegrass cat
deputy glitters
jazil
oh so awesome
steppenwolfer

teases
hemingway's key
high Finance
Sacred Light

pretenders
bob and john
sunriver

what are you doing in this race
double galore
Platinum Couple

Lewis Michael would have beaten JAzil, Sacred Light, Hemingway's Key and likely High Finance in the Peter Pan.

2Hot4TV · #38 06-07-2006, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by LARHAGE

Is it just me? I just see Sunriver as a overrated slow plodder type, maybe he'll proove me wrong, but I don't think so. I like Bob and John here.

I see both Bob and John and Sunriver as the same type of plodders. Both are not going to dazzle you with a burst of speed ,but they are not quitters.

2Hot4TV · #39 06-07-2006, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Suffolk Shippers

Bob and John is a non contender unless UNLESS the 40 days and 40 nights of rain here on the East Coast persists. If it does, you have to at least pay attention to his Wood in similar conditions.

How soon we forget that Baffert was shipping and winning. Bob and John can run.

slotdirt · #40 06-08-2006, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig188

lol
i LOVE your signature.

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I immediately regret this decision! These bears are HUGE!