Nice try Nostradamus

Kasept · #1 09-09-2006, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by oracle80

Steve hes just not that talented. hes beaten 3Yo's with two perfect trips. Todays race was really not even as good as his 3rd place looks. He sat an absolute perfect trip behind dawdling fractions and got first run at the longshot leader when he faded. he had a full tank of gasoline and still got passed by Go deputy. I saw War Chant, and War Chant he aint. Not even close. If he tries the mile he'd be lucky to beat 4 horses.

His figs fit nicely with these today, and while empty for the stretch drive, it could simply be that it's further than he cares to go. He is far from talentless. The effort at Colonial was quite good, and he's displayed nice versatility up to today. He was giving away experience, and the less than firm footing could have been a factor too.

I think Tagg has to figure out what exactly he's best at, and he doesn't have a great deal of time to do it. The Mile seems like the only logical spot, and you know the Jacksons are going to want to be there. I would say that with the modest career starts, long distance limitations (9.5f max?) and ability to win on dirt and turf, he's the closest thing we've seen to War Chant..

Crown@club · #2 09-09-2006, 06:48 PM

Put him in the mile! End of Story! Tired of hearing of the Great Showing Up and that he should win easily.

#3 09-09-2006, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept

His figs fit nicely with these today, and while empty for the stretch drive, it could simply be that it's further than he cares to go. He is far from talentless. The effort at Colonial was quite good, and he's displayed nice versatility up to today. He was giving away experience, and the less than firm footing could have been a factor too.

I think Tagg has to figure out what exactly he's best at, and he doesn't have a great deal of time to do it. The Mile seems like the only logical spot, and you know the Jacksons are going to want to be there. I would say that with the modest career starts, long distance limitations (9.5f max?) and ability to win on dirt and turf, he's the closest thing we've seen to War Chant..

To be honest with you if I were Frankel I would run cacique in the mile.
His turn of foot when rated is just crushing, and the mile would allow him to settle off a hotter pace, esepcially at Cd where the mile is two turns.
Don't be surprised if frankel chooses the mile with cacique. hes prone to changing his mind, and I wouldnt be surprised if he went mile with cacique, and won.
Showing Up should be much better at age 4, the properly handled ones always are.

ateamstupid · #4 09-09-2006, 07:08 PM

I would like SU in the BCM as well, but why not the Classic? He's obviously a step below Bernardini and Invasor, but last time I checked, third and fourth in that race pay pretty well.

sumitas · #5 09-09-2006, 08:01 PM

If SU prior 2 wins on T were on firm then today's showing on good explains the lack of punch. Still a decent effort from SU.

DiscreetCat=Monster · #6 09-09-2006, 08:07 PM

Showing Up will get his butt kicked by older horses if he decides to run in the BC he will just get in the way and make someone else miserable in the process
But watch they will run him they will say well we are gonna half to start faceing older sooner or later and for the a chance at the BC purses you better belive he will be there

hoovesupsideyourhead · #7 09-09-2006, 08:10 PM

my pick today go deputy ran huge and with a better trip will do well in the bc.....

Nostradamus · #8 09-09-2006, 08:32 PM

I will take my beating like a man. I thought he would win and lost $250 on him. I did win it all back in the ninth with my $24 horse I gave out it our picks thread. I also picked Brilliant.

The Showing Up camp was happy with his effort. They just thought he was a little too aggressive. He did run ok but there is a distance question with him. The turf was not very good either. Rumor has it he will try the dirt again. Breeders Cup Classic would be interesting. My brother really thinks he will definitely go in the Breeders Cup Mile.

Nostradamus · #9 09-09-2006, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Distance wise, it might be around his best, but Tagg seems to think he is better on turf. He didn't run all that bad in the Derby, but I think it'd be a longshot. He seems like a tweener to me, I'm not sold that a mile is his best distance, and I have doubts about him winning grade I races at 1 1/2. Too bad there is a 1 3/16 BC race.

Tagg does not think he is better on the turf. He just does not know. He even said it on ATRAB on Monday. He will be around next year so they probably will experiment a little with him.

Tagg likes a lot of time between races so I really think he will be freshened up for the Breeders Cup Turf. He just ran out of gas today.