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Old 05-25-2009, 07:20 PM
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It'll be interesting to see if the Chicago Tribune goes on another "smear" campaign like they did in 2006, assailing Arlington re: the breakdowns. Very ironic since that paper basically quit their racing coverage around 10 years ago but they couldn't wait to go wild with the breakdown stories. The PR was so bad, AP felt no choice but to put the synthetic surface in to appease the critics.

Hope Inez is ok.
You really think that public perception outside the industry was the driving force for the installation of synthetic surfaces?
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Old 05-25-2009, 07:29 PM
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per DRF.com, Inez has been released from the hospital...

http://www.drf.com/news/article/104093.html

any news on the horses?
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Old 05-25-2009, 07:33 PM
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per DRF.com, Inez has been released from the hospital...

http://www.drf.com/news/article/104093.html

any news on the horses?
Inez's horse must have been put down..too many screens for anything else. Courtwight tossed Lopez but then ran off ok
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Old 05-25-2009, 07:30 PM
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You really think that public perception outside the industry was the driving force for the installation of synthetic surfaces?
I don't think it is for all surfaces...but whether or not Arlington put theirs in to quell the outrage around Chicago, the fact remains that it was a HUGE PR move for them. It was almost like they had to based on what happened here the summer prior.

Can't say for sure, but Arlington's Polytrack installation came under and out of a very unique set of circumstances, so tossing Arlington's installation in with the point you're obviously trying to make is a bit misleading.
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Old 05-25-2009, 07:33 PM
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The point I'm trying to make is that maybe - gee, just maybe - the folks in charge actually give a damn about the lives of horses and jockeys.
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Old 05-25-2009, 10:16 PM
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looks like both jocks in the spill are ok, just read that inez was released from the hospital-they found nothing wrong. but i'd imagine she's sore-or will be tomorrow.

not sure if anyone was watching lone star today, but flibberjibit was pulled up on the first turn. just read this:


"Flibberjibit was pulled up in the one-mile turf race with an injury to her left hind leg, one race before the Lone Star.

"She took a bad step on the first turn," said Wolfson, who said it appeared Flibberjibit might have sustained a condylar fracture. "I'll see when we get back to the barn if we can do some surgery on her. I don't know."

hope she makes it ok.
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Old 05-26-2009, 08:39 PM
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The next question is.......before the parents hastily ran their kids out of the AP picnic area, did they stop at a self service terminal to play the final race trifecta?
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Old 05-26-2009, 09:01 PM
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Watch some races from Europe and abroad if you want to see riders riding "tight". They ride whole lot closer to each other with alot more horses in the race so the whole blaming synthetic tracks for horses being bunched and that somehow causes more accidents is just stupid. Accidents happen , the guy didnt mean to drop him , he meant to beat him to the hole and 95% of the time things work out fine , this time it didnt .
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Old 05-25-2009, 07:36 PM
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I don't think it is for all surfaces...but whether or not Arlington put theirs in to quell the outrage around Chicago, the fact remains that it was a HUGE PR move for them. It was almost like they had to based on what happened here the summer prior.

Can't say for sure, but Arlington's Polytrack installation came under and out of a very unique set of circumstances, so tossing Arlington's installation in with the point you're obviously trying to make is a bit misleading.

As you know, I'm not anywheres near as bright as yourself.... what exactly is the point that she is "obviously" trying to make?
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Old 05-25-2009, 08:17 PM
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The point I'm trying to make is that maybe - gee, just maybe - the folks in charge actually give a damn about the lives of horses and jockeys.
Of course. And I'm a big proponent of synthetic surfaces. Just saying that there is a difference between how Arlington did theirs and how other tracks did. Arlington had to do something. The two can very well go hand in hand, though Arlington's could very easily be viewed as nothing more than a PR move. To be honest, in their case, I imagine it was quite a bit of both. They didn't want breakdowns any more than anyone else did, but cynically, it was a brilliant PR move...the best they could have made.

I'm not disagreeing with you one bit, and didn't intend for it to sound like I was. I was just noting that the Arlington situation was a bit different than others in that regard.

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As you know, I'm not anywheres near as bright as yourself.... what exactly is the point that she is "obviously" trying to make?
Was her rhetorical question that tough for you to decipher? "No" is the point she was obviously trying to make....glad to be of service again on things like this for you, tiger.


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Old 05-25-2009, 08:30 PM
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Of course. And I'm a big proponent of synthetic surfaces. Just saying that there is a difference between how Arlington did theirs and how other tracks did. Arlington had to do something. The two can very well go hand in hand, though Arlington's could very easily be viewed as nothing more than a PR move. To be honest, in their case, I imagine it was quite a bit of both. They didn't want breakdowns any more than anyone else did, but cynically, it was a brilliant PR move...the best they could have made.

I'm not disagreeing with you one bit, and didn't intend for it to sound like I was. I was just noting that the Arlington situation was a bit different than others in that regard.



Was her rhetorical question that tough for you to decipher? "No" is the point she was obviously trying to make....glad to be of service again on things like this for you, tiger.
Let me first say that I am a huge fan of Arlington's surface BUT they could have just redid the base and kept dirt, the problem wasn't the dirt, it was the bottom which was like driving on Higgins near the airport.....
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Old 05-26-2009, 08:58 PM
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Let me first say that I am a huge fan of Arlington's surface BUT they could have just redid the base and kept dirt, the problem wasn't the dirt, it was the bottom which was like driving on Higgins near the airport.....
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Old 05-25-2009, 08:37 PM
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but cynically, it was a brilliant PR move...the best they could have made.
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