NBA Playoffs

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Interesting defensive adjustments by the lakers.

Still not exploiting size advantage enough. Bynum is either injured or the most overrated player in the NBA.

I dont think that they did anything special, it was just Denver getting in foul trouble and Kobe winning the game with an assist to george and Kenyon. I thought they did a pretty good job of exploiting Gasol's size's in the post. Like you said Bynum cant be trusted on the offensive end. It is simply evenly matched teams.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

No Kobe is a better actor than the rest. Spike Lee told him what to do.

You're still pssd he did the loose white girl. She told her friends that he was already her "5th Negro."

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Fisher is just over the hill
George Karl makes a lot of mistakes too
Dont they have a freakin out of bounds play? Having to call a to was bad enough. The 2nd mess that they ran when Kmart just threw the ball to Ariza was terrible.

KMART's entrance was all fkd up. Mr. RED LIPS thinks he's so fancy, but my bitch (dog) is smarter. My really dumb mutt is almost as smart as KMART.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I dont think that they did anything special, it was just Denver getting in foul trouble and Kobe winning the game with an assist to george and Kenyon. .

Foul Trouble didnt make Denver shoot 39% from the field and 18% from the 3 point line after they had shot 48% and 44% respectively in the first two games from the field and 33% and 42% from the 3 pt line respectively. Denver didnt score 100 pts for the first time either.

I agree though, there was nothing noticeable except for effort. They were much better on their rotations on the drives than they had been thats for sure.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Wow. Delonte West basically puts the collar on Joe Johnson and Rip Hamilton and some guy the Knicks deemed expendable is a much better defender? The guy who is the primary small defender on the best defensive team in the NBA? West is head and shoulders above Ariza as a complimentary offensive player.

I almost forgot about this gem. LOL

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Interesting defensive adjustments by the lakers.

Still not exploiting size advantage enough. Bynum is either injured or the most overrated player in the NBA.

They played the majority of the season without him.
If you watched them you would realize they push the ball
off of long rebounds and steals. Bynum does not fit this
scheme, especially in his currently immobile/out of shape
state.

Kobe and Gasol.
This is what the Lakers have.

Then pray someone else shows up.
Usually Ariza or Odom.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by pgardn

They played the majority of the season without him.
If you watched them you would realize they push the ball
off of long rebounds and steals. Bynum does not fit this
scheme, especially in his currently immobile/out of shape
state.

Kobe and Gasol.
This is what the Lakers have.

Then pray someone else shows up.
Usually Ariza or Odom.

It doesnt have anything to do with "scheme" as much as Bynum sucking. If Bynum played defense and rebounded, regardless of his offensive prowess or lack thereof, he would be playing. The fact that he does neither negates a potentially big advantage.

[geeker2]

Originally Posted by pgardn

They played the majority of the season without him.
If you watched them you would realize they push the ball
off of long rebounds and steals. Bynum does not fit this
scheme, especially in his currently immobile/out of shape
state.

Kobe and Gasol.
This is what the Lakers have.

Then pray someone else shows up.
Usually Ariza or Odom.

Agree - Lakers live and die by this....

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

KMART's entrance was all fkd up. Mr. RED LIPS thinks he's so fancy, but my bitch (dog) is smarter. My really dumb mutt is almost as smart as KMART.

Kmart and Nene.


Keep the Nuggets stupid.

Originally Posted by dalakhani

It doesnt have anything to do with "scheme" as much as Bynum sucking. If Bynum played defense and rebounded, regardless of his offensive prowess or lack thereof, he would be playing. The fact that he does neither negates a potentially big advantage.

With a guy as young as he is its hard
just to show up right before the playoffs
after that type of injury
and expect to blend in with a team that
had a basic scheme that worked in the
regular season.

You expected Bynum to be Duncan and
the Lakers could go halfcourt through him?
When any player is on the court they have
to play offense and defense. Girls 70's halfcourt
basketball is gone.
It has never been established exactly how
Bynum will fit in with this team. People
have claimed what he should do on paper,
but there has never been any well established
pattern in games primarily because he has not
been around long enough.


And the way the Lakers play is working.
Especially at the end of games. Kobe is
getting lots of foul shots, Gasol's mobility
allows him to clean up spread court misses.
Its just taking
a toll on Kobe and Gasol in the playoffs
unlike the regular season. Minutes are much
more difficult.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

I've never seen Kobe that tired. Gasol finally got the balls to take a couple shots in the 4th quarter. Ariza hit some massive bombs(after he got something niiiiice from that locker room.) Other than that, Kobe...Brother...You (as Obama says it) ..."You are on your own!" So, it's pretty obvious that if one of those hot-tempered thugs takes Kobe out (in a particular way,) then the series is over. I would guess it would most likely be Smith, but Billups is the only one I'd rule out. Even Linus(pssd cuz Snoopy got his blue blanky) is a candidate.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

I almost forgot about this gem. LOL

Has Ariza ever created his own shot even once in the playoffs??? His offensive contributions include standing at the three point line and taking open jumpers when Gasol and Kobe are doubled.

He is basically playing the Steve kerr role at 6'8". While he has hit the open jumpers he is hardly an offensive factor. And his defense on Anthony....

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

I've never seen Kobe that tired. Gasol finally got the balls to take a couple shots in the 4th quarter. Ariza hit some massive bombs(after he got something niiiiice from that locker room.) Other than that, Kobe...Brother...You (as Obama says it) ..."You are on your own!" So, it's pretty obvious that if one of those hot-tempered thugs takes Kobe out (in a particular way,) then the series is over. I would guess it would most likely be Smith, but Billups is the only one I'd rule out. Even Linus(pssd cuz Snoopy got his blue blanky) is a candidate.

Gasol fits in very nicely with this team.
Last year he got beat up by the Celtics.
They had too many big guys for him.
He has very nice mobility, can pass, can
get out on screens on D, does a nice job on the
offensive boards. He is their second best player.
He goes down and the Lakers are out. No way
Bynum, in his current state, can touch what
Gasol is doing right now. A stronger forward with some mobility
like Millsap, Brandon Bass or even Scola would
really help imo, along with a PG.

Kobe of course is a given.
Hell if the Lakers took Carmello or Billups
out the series would end.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by pgardn

With a guy as young as he is its hard
just to show up right before the playoffs
after that type of injury
and expect to blend in with a team that
had a basic scheme that worked in the
regular season.

You expected Bynum to be Duncan and
the Lakers could go halfcourt through him?
When any player is on the court they have
to play offense and defense. Girls 70's halfcourt
basketball is gone.
It has never been established exactly how
Bynum will fit in with this team. People
have claimed what he should do on paper,
but there has never been any well established
pattern in games primarily because he has not
been around long enough.


And the way the Lakers play is working.
Especially at the end of games. Kobe is
getting lots of foul shots, Gasol's mobility
allows him to clean up spread court misses.
Its just taking
a toll on Kobe and Gasol in the playoffs
unlike the regular season. Minutes are much
more difficult.

Bynum is not in shape and his knee is probably still bugging him. He has stunk though.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

I've never seen Kobe that tired. Gasol finally got the balls to take a couple shots in the 4th quarter. Ariza hit some massive bombs(after he got something niiiiice from that locker room.) Other than that, Kobe...Brother...You (as Obama says it) ..."You are on your own!" So, it's pretty obvious that if one of those hot-tempered thugs takes Kobe out (in a particular way,) then the series is over. I would guess it would most likely be Smith, but Billups is the only one I'd rule out. Even Linus(pssd cuz Snoopy got his blue blanky) is a candidate.

Kobe was faking. He saw LeBron faking the other night after they lost and figured it was a good way to attract more attention to himself. The way the NBA refs are calling the fouls i think if someone tried to take Kobe out they would make Denver forfeit. I'm sure David Stern is very happy today though.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by pgardn

Gasol fits in very nicely with this team.
Last year he got beat up by the Celtics.
They had too many big guys for him.
He has very nice mobility, can pass, can
get out on screens on D, does a nice job on the
offensive boards. He is their second best player.
He goes down and the Lakers are out. No way
Bynum, in his current state, can touch what
Gasol is doing right now. A stronger forward with some mobility
like Millsap, Brandon Bass or even Scola would
really help imo, along with a PG.

Kobe of course is a given.
Hell if the Lakers took Carmello or Billups
out the series would end.

Gasol could fit in on any team.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Kobe was faking. He saw LeBron faking the other night after they lost and figured it was a good way to attract more attention to himself. The way the NBA refs are calling the fouls i think if someone tried to take Kobe out they would make Denver forfeit. I'm sure David Stern is very happy today though.

Most of those times(you're talking about) he is fouled, and they don't call it. He loses control of the ball (because he is fouled,) and has to do that fake stuff. It's not like that acting job Billups does (like turning that 3 pointer into a 4.) Why don't you complain about the biggest actor on the floor last night? Sasha is acting like crazy, but you don't mention him (cuz he isn't brown or something?) Sasha looked like he was in a Bruce Lee movie.

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Gasol could fit in on any team.

The Grizzlies thought differently.
Kidding aside:

If the Spurs would have stolen Gasol
somehow that "trade" would have been
declared illegal.

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Kobe was faking. He saw LeBron faking the other night after they lost and figured it was a good way to attract more attention to himself. The way the NBA refs are calling the fouls i think if someone tried to take Kobe out they would make Denver forfeit. I'm sure David Stern is very happy today though.

Kobe is having to play much harder in the playoffs.
Unlike Cleveland, the Lakers are coming off a very
tough series. Kobe sitting the first 4 minutes of the last
quarter during the regular season was a luxury. He has
got to be tired. Unless Dutrow is his consultant.

And why the heck they make him play Carmello...
Carmello is just beating him up. Carmello can just walk
Kobe under the basket off the ball. That just kills a
players legs having to sumo-wrestle off the ball like that.

That elbow Kobe rubbed on Artest, even if it was in
the chest/throat area and not the face, might have got another player suspended for a game.
for a game.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Has Ariza ever created his own shot even once in the playoffs??? His offensive contributions include standing at the three point line and taking open jumpers when Gasol and Kobe are doubled.

He is basically playing the Steve kerr role at 6'8". While he has hit the open jumpers he is hardly an offensive factor. And his defense on Anthony....

Not the point Mr. Shell. You said Delonte West was way better. I said they were about the same.

So far, Ariza has made at very least an equal impact but objectively speaking he has made more of an impact than Delonte West.