NBA Playoffs

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Do you want me to pull out the original quotes chuck?

And you still havent refuted the anthony stats. You said he hasnt stepped up but the stats say he has.

What gives? Do you deny the stats mr kettle?

His stats in the playoffs are almost identical to what he did during the 06/07 season. Maybe the fact that the games are being played in the 100's or he is covered by your wiz kid can explain the stats. I hardly think that 2 games against the lakers versus 4 in the reg season is a valid statistical comparison.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Who the hell is john hollander and how does he have more credibility than barkley or doug collins?

More importantly...who the hell is john hollander?

He is a basketball writer for ESPN who saw what everyone else did. LeBron checking the PG.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

He is a basketball writer for ESPN who saw what everyone else did. LeBron checking the PG.

Interesting. charles barkley and doug collins are a little bit more valid. I mean...at least we have heard of them.

That writer isnt even American.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

His stats in the playoffs are almost identical to what he did during the 06/07 season. Maybe the fact that the games are being played in the 100's or he is covered by your wiz kid can explain the stats. I hardly think that 2 games against the lakers versus 4 in the reg season is a valid statistical comparison.

Look at the whole playoffs. He has upped every statistical category from his regular season average to his career average to his career playoff average.

Is that not enough of a statistical comparison?????????????????

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Interesting. charles barkley and doug collins are a little bit more valid. I mean...at least we have heard of them.

That writer isnt even American.

There have been tons of stuff written about the 1st game and how effective the Cavs defense with the unusual matchups one of which was LeBron James guarding the point guard was in the first half. Your point is almost indefensible. I'm sure there is video available of the first half of the game. When Alston and Johnson are bringing the ball up the court and they are being guarded by LeBron james, how doesnt this not count?

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

There have been tons of stuff written about the 1st game and how effective the Cavs defense with the unusual matchups one of which was LeBron James guarding the point guard was in the first half. Your point is almost indefensible. I'm sure there is video available of the first half of the game. When Alston and Johnson are bringing the ball up the court and they are being guarded by LeBron james, how doesnt this not count?

If the one man zone was effective, why did they go away from it? Perhaps because the man who was not being guarded, alston, hit a couple of open jumpers (11 pts)? Hmmmm

You have to stop the ball. That is a basic rule in defense and alston isnt a threat to get to the basket or do anything once he gets there. Self check. So once the ball is passed that is when the play starts.

I dont know how many magic games you watched but they are not a pg dominated offense especially when the little guy got injured.

5 on 4 not man to man.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

This is laughable...

But yet so true...

[dalakhani]

He isnt even covering him. Seriously. Are you watching this?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

If the one man zone was effective, why did they go away from it? Perhaps because the man who was not being guarded, alston, hit a couple of open jumpers (11 pts)? Hmmmm

You have to stop the ball. That is a basic rule in defense and alston isnt a threat to get to the basket or do anything once he gets there. Self check. So once the ball is passed that is when the play starts.

I dont know how many magic games you watched but they are not a pg dominated offense especially when the little guy got injured.

5 on 4 not man to man.

Uh because the Magic made adjustments? Alston had 5 points at halftime. Cleveland did do pretty well in the first half the other night.

James guarded the point guard. This is fact. Not opinion.

[dalakhani]

After one quarter, Orlando has scored 16 pts...7 coming from jackson and alston. Interesting.

Notice that lebron was switching off of the initial screen and then instantly doubling the post? Remember...he cant stay in the paint to double or else its illegal defense.

In all fairness, Lebron played Alston straight up in the intial possession...or about as close as you can come to such a self check. After that, pretty much all zone until they brought johnson in and after two possession they switched lebron to courtney lee and then rashaad lewis (4)

Any disagreement now is just being stuborn. lebron is a remarkable talent but he can't cover 5 positions effectively. That is all i said.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

After one quarter, Orlando has scored 16 pts...7 coming from jackson and alston. Interesting.

Notice that lebron was switching off of the initial screen and then instantly doubling the post? Remember...he cant stay in the paint to double or else its illegal defense.

In all fairness, Lebron played Alston straight up in the intial possession...or about as close as you can come to such a self check. After that, pretty much all zone until they brought johnson in and after two possession they switched lebron to courtney lee and then rashaad lewis (4)

Any disagreement now is just being stuborn. lebron is a remarkable talent but he can't cover 5 positions effectively. That is all i said.

How is any of what you said proof of anything? You just said he covered a 1, a 2 and a combo 3/4. Doesn't that get me 80% there?

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

How is any of what you said proof of anything? You just said he covered a 1, a 2 and a combo 3/4. Doesn't that get me 80% there?

LOL. in a zone you cover everyone.

You ready to change the record? There are far more interesting things to disagree about. Obviously no one is waving the white flag here.

Do you disagree that this game is over?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

LOL. in a zone you cover everyone.

You ready to change the record? There are far more interesting things to disagree about. Obviously no one is waving the white flag here.

Do you disagree that this game is over?

They dont play zone. This game is over.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

They dont play zone. This game is over.

You cant get much more zone than what they were playing without being illegal.

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

LOL. in a zone you cover everyone.


Do you disagree that this game is over?

yes, 100 percent. It's the second quarter.

correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty certain they didn't call the game at halftime in game 1.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

yes, 100 percent. It's the second quarter.

correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty certain they didn't call the game at halftime in game 1.

scrambler...i will lay 10-1 right now that this is over.

max bet 10 dollars

deal?

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

scrambler...i will lay 10-1 right now that this is over.

max bet 10 dollars

deal?

What does over really mean?? I mean you could have said the same thing at halftime of game 1 and Lewis misses the 3 or West makes the last 3 and teechinically you would be right. I think the Cavs will win, but I'll bet you the Magic cut the deficit to under 4 points at some point in this game.

I'll lay the 10-1 that the deficit gets under 4, not a win or loss.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

What does over really mean?? I mean you could have said the same thing at halftime of game 1 and Lewis misses the 3 or West makes the last 3 and teechinically you would be right. I think the Cavs will win, but I'll bet you the Magic cut the deficit to under 4 points at some point in this game.

even money?

[horseofcourse]

ON a side note, Redick's a third of the way to seattleallstar's 15 point quarter.

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

even money?

IN the end, the Magic are just as close now as they were at halftime last game shooting much, much worse than game 1. This game is not over. Not even close.