TG figure for the Preakness

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by Kasept

The specific Preakness card analysis was $15. Full sheets for a single card are $25. And it's about interpretation of the figures and patterns, and even Jerry isn't right 100% of the time or able to guarantee how every horse in 20 or 13 horse fields are going to perform.

As someone who utilizes Thoro-Graph and represents the product, my own interpretation of the figs and patterns resulted in my tabbing 1.) Rachel Alexandra, 2.) Musket Man and 3.) Mine That Bird as my top three... so clearly that version of the outcome could have been projected by TG sheets users.

And as a sidenote, that $25 for the Preakness card TG's would have put you in position to spot potential performances like No Advatage's ($28), Motown Shuffle's ($40) and Everyday Heroes ($16) in addition to that Preakness Triple.

Of course he is not right 100%, its just funny in such a high profile race that TG rides both sides to cover themselves.

I guess with two straight pairs MTB has to bounce in the Belmont? You use the product, whats your interpratation reading that sheet?

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

Of course he is not right 100%, its just funny in such a high profile race that TG rides both sides to cover themselves.

I guess with two straight pairs MTB has to bounce in the Belmont? You use the product, whats your interpratation reading that sheet?

tg makes their analysis available at no charge in their "red board room" for several days AFTER the conclusion of a full days card.

they get plenty wrong, as does anyone who does this for any period of time. they also, as steve pointed out, get a good deal of shockingly fat payouts.

the willingness to make their results, good or bad, available to anyone who wants to look doesn't fit the profile of someone wanting to be right no matter the result.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

Of course he is not right 100%, its just funny in such a high profile race that TG rides both sides to cover themselves.

I guess with two straight pairs MTB has to bounce in the Belmont? You use the product, whats your interpratation reading that sheet?

His pattern shows the likelihood of a slight backwards move. But there's something interesting about a horse like Mine That Bird in these discussions... As a deep closer with one run, he doesn't undergo the same rigor of race stress like a Rachel Alexandra, so there may be less pronounced effect of 'big' efforts and tightly spaced efforts.

At the same time, as a gelding in the spring, and with no steroids to help keep his appetite up, he may be vulnerable to weight loss and tucking up. Horses that run well in the Preakness and Derby, and in this case perhaps the Preakness and Oaks, frequently can 'go south' about 10 days or so after Baltimore.

[Merlinsky]

Originally Posted by Kasept

His pattern shows the likelihood of a slight backwards move. But there's something interesting about a horse like Mine That Bird in these discussions... As a deep closer with one run, he doesn't undergo the same rigor of race stress like a Rachel Alexandra, so there may be less pronounced effect of 'big' efforts and tightly spaced efforts.

At the same time, as a gelding in the spring, and with no steroids to help keep his appetite up, he may be vulnerable to weight loss and tucking up. Horses that run well in the Preakness and Derby, and in this case perhaps the Preakness and Oaks, frequently can 'go south' about 10 days or so after Baltimore.

How does that work with fillies Steve? Don't they have to give them something to keep them from going into season? I'm not absolutely familiar with the biology of it, I just know I've heard that suggested in past springs with female Derby hopefuls that looked terrific and then seemed to fall off form.

I think Asmussen or Scott Blasi might've said something about Jackson wanting to set RA up for Horse of the Year and she will have the schedule that would get it for her. What's she going to have to do? Face Einstein and/or Zenyatta? Does that also include running in the Belmont, esp. if MTB won it?