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Old 05-19-2009, 09:38 AM
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The only eclipse award that has been decided already is Rachel Alexandra as top 3 year old filly.

In 2007, we had a different winner of each triple crown race. If Rachel Alexandra doesn't go in the Belmont, it's possible we have the same thing this year. It wasn't until Curlin won the Classic that year, that he got the award that year.

Sure if Mine That Bird wins the Belmont he becomes the big favorite. But, what if he doesn't win another race the rest of the year? What if a another 3 year old wins the Jim Dandy, Travers, Jockey Club Gold Cup and Classic? Hard to deny the award to him won't it be?
Especially if that were Quality Road and the horse beat Mind that Bird head to head in at least one of those races.
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Old 05-19-2009, 09:54 AM
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Especially if that were Quality Road and the horse beat Mind that Bird head to head in at least one of those races.

scott - what if they go back to Sunland for the summer after winning the belmont and don't go head to head vs QR

I'll give QR 3 wins in NY , but, i won't give him the classic on the poly in california - who would get the vote , who won the more important races

injuries are part of the game it's unfortunate that QR did not get to compete in the TC , but how in the world could you in all honesty vote for QR over MTB in this secnario - explain please
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Old 05-19-2009, 09:59 AM
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scott - what if they go back to Sunland for the summer after winning the belmont and don't go head to head vs QR

I'll give QR 3 wins in NY , but, i won't give him the classic on the poly in california - who would get the vote , who won the more important races

injuries are part of the game it's unfortunate that QR did not get to compete in the TC , but how in the world could you in all honesty vote for QR over MTB in this secnario - explain please
It would be an interesting vote if that happened. I think there would be a huge backlash against the owners for ducking the competition by hiding out in New Mexico. I also think the stupidity of hiding a gelding cause you might lose the prestige of an Eclipse Award when he could be out earning checks is a pretty amusing scenario.
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Old 05-19-2009, 10:11 AM
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It would be an interesting vote if that happened. I think there would be a huge backlash against the owners for ducking the competition by hiding out in New Mexico. I also think the stupidity of hiding a gelding cause you might lose the prestige of an Eclipse Award when he could be out earning checks is a pretty amusing scenario.

what if the connections take him up to Woodbine to run in some of the big races up there and he wins - does that get held against him as well

it's a long way to go - my main point is IF he wins the belmont , another 3yr old colt would have to run the table in some pretty big races including the BCC out on the poly in cali - and i don't think Jimmy will go to california with QR in my opinion to run on the cushion , so if MTB wins at BEL i don't see a chance for QR to overtake him for 3 yr old of the year because i don't think QR is going to Califronia no matter how many races in NY he wins
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Old 05-19-2009, 10:14 AM
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what if the connections take him up to Woodbine to run in some of the big races up there and he wins - does that get held against him as well

it's a long way to go - my main point is IF he wins the belmont , another 3yr old colt would have to run the table in some pretty big races including the BCC out on the poly in cali - and i don't think Jimmy will go to california with QR in my opinion to run on the cushion , so if MTB wins at BEL i don't see a chance for QR to overtake him for 3 yr old of the year because i don't think QR is going to Califronia no matter how many races in NY he wins
Big races in Woodbine? You mean on the turf in races often targeted by older European horses? I'm sure he'd turn some heads if he won those but he'd be longer odds than he was in the Derby to do so. What other big races would they run him in at Woodbine?
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Old 05-19-2009, 10:17 AM
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Big races in Woodbine? You mean on the turf in races often targeted by older European horses? I'm sure he'd turn some heads if he won those but he'd be longer odds than he was in the Derby to do so. What other big races would they run him in at Woodbine?

i don't know what 3 yr old races are up there
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Old 05-19-2009, 10:20 AM
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If anything we have learned you cannot discount the talent that comes from perceived inferior locales. Sealy Hill & now Mine That Bird are a testament to that, both former Sovereign winners. Throw in Fatal Bullet also.
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