Mr. President

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

That's a shame, about your ankles coming off, seeing as how you spend so much time grabbing them.

CBS: Owned by Westinghouse
NBC: Owned by General Electric
ABC: Owned by Disney
TIME: Owned by Time-Warner

And that's what I found out in just in 30 seconds of Googling.

Please indicate to me where it says most Americans get their news from the BBC and Al Jazeera. If you can tear yourself away from Fox News, that is. (Owned by that mega-rich Australian guy, Murdoch)

All of the media sources I mentioned ... are notorious, flaming left-wing propaganda outlets.

Nothing wrong with that ... no reason why lefties shouldn't have their own playpens ... but you just seem silly when you proclaim that they favor Republicans.

Originally Posted by Bold Brooklynite

All of the media sources I mentioned ... are notorious, flaming left-wing propaganda outlets.

Nothing wrong with that ... no reason why lefties shouldn't have their own playpens ... but you just seem silly when you proclaim that they favor Republicans.

Relativity.
Flaming left wing compared to... BB's cartesian coordinate reference point which exists somewhere... How do you establish a point that is well right of right?

Supreme Court justices chosen by private companies... he agrees. Cool. I think the IRS should be run privately also. They could sell all BB's information to the private companies that run the CIA and the FBI. And then a decision is handed down to execute him... the ruling made in a courtroom run by private companies. Im telling on BB. You have been posting on a commie leftist site like this one. Justice done. Fraternizing with the enemy, guilt by association. All done privately, and oh so efficiently.

[somerfrost]

An interesting thread....I agree that Americans aren't stupid, just lack intellectual curiosity. SAT scores and IQ tests are clearly only rough estimates of innate intellect, both are severely compromised by environment as well as how an individual processes information...this was an area of interest for me in Grad School, I was taught to administer, score and evaluate IQ, personality and other tests...I think I have a fair grasp on their uses and limitations. Quick example...I have a friend who has a documented IQ score 95 points lower than mine...yet she's taught me everything I know about computers, cell phones and other electronic equipment and no, her expertise isn't limited to those areas; she has difficulty with timed reading comprehension and written exams...she processes information differently than I do, I suspect her intellectual capacity is equal to mine yet if you go by IQ testing....

Originally Posted by somerfrost

An interesting thread....I agree that Americans aren't stupid, just lack intellectual curiosity. SAT scores and IQ tests are clearly only rough estimates of innate intellect, both are severely compromised by environment as well as how an individual processes information...this was an area of interest for me in Grad School, I was taught to administer, score and evaluate IQ, personality and other tests...I think I have a fair grasp on their uses and limitations. Quick example...I have a friend who has a documented IQ score 95 points lower than mine...yet she's taught me everything I know about computers, cell phones and other electronic equipment and no, her expertise isn't limited to those areas; she has difficulty with timed reading comprehension and written exams...she processes information differently than I do, I suspect her intellectual capacity is equal to mine yet if you go by IQ testing....

I got tons of examples of this type of thing. Our school used to enter contests to build a robot out of a box of scraps that included all sorts of stuff that we had to tear apart and then build a bot to perform a specific task and square off against other schools in a field of play. Of course all the bookworm brainiacs would show up, but occasionally we would get these kids that were so 3-d mechanically oriented, and they made horrible grades and test scores.
But they would be telling the other "brighter" kids, no, no, if you do that first, we will not be able to get the arm to swing out this way because..., and the ball catching device will not work because... it was quite an eye opener. And these "lesser" kids were the ones that were by far the best at sequencing the building way ahead of time. They knew exactly what needed to be done first and last..., and being able to come up with alternative designs when we hit a snag on a certain part of a robot. Amazing kids with horrible test scores. I learned some huge lessons from those experiences.

Another for Somer:

I had this kid that had a very difficult time processing visual information involving letters. So I would read the problem to him. He would draw a picture of the situation, and ask is this basically what the questions is asking. I said exactly, and he would go on to solve the problem in an entirely novel way. By using this complex set of proportions instead of what I though was the easy physics way. The kid taught me a brand new way of looking at problems. It did not work for all of them, but it was a very clever way of looking at certain types of problems that I have never seen before in textbooks.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by pgardn

Another for Somer:

I had this kid that had a very difficult time processing visual information involving letters. So I would read the problem to him. He would draw a picture of the situation, and ask is this basically what the questions is asking. I said exactly, and he would go on to solve the problem in an entirely novel way. By using this complex set of proportions instead of what I though was the easy physics way. The kid taught me a brand new way of looking at problems. It did not work for all of them, but it was a very clever way of looking at certain types of problems that I have never seen before in textbooks.

Exactly! The sad thing is that these kids get labeled for life as MR and doors slam shut...if you have a physical illness, the label goes away with the symptomology but anytime you get a Psych dx, it stays for life! Same with MR....we waste so much talent that way.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by pgardn

Another for Somer:

I had this kid that had a very difficult time processing visual information involving letters. So I would read the problem to him. He would draw a picture of the situation, and ask is this basically what the questions is asking. I said exactly, and he would go on to solve the problem in an entirely novel way. By using this complex set of proportions instead of what I though was the easy physics way. The kid taught me a brand new way of looking at problems. It did not work for all of them, but it was a very clever way of looking at certain types of problems that I have never seen before in textbooks.

He's an aural llearner! Give the kid books on tape and he'd rule the world!

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

He's an aural llearner! Give the kid books on tape and he'd rule the world!

It's SO interesting you mentioned that, timm-- reading everyone's posts, I was thinking of a book a friend of mine read that was exploring different ways of learning and said you can basically dissect learning into three different types-- visual, aural and kinesthetic. Everyone learns using all three methods, but individuals will have a natural affinity for one method over the other two. Visual people learn by seeing, aural by hearing, and kinesthetic by doing. I do well visually, and can manage aurally, but my preferred method is definitely kinesthetic.

And pgardn was right about the SATs-- they don't show a darn thing other than how well someone takes tests. (And I say this as someone who did well on them.) Very little practical use to them at all, other than to give SAT tutors a job.

And Oracle, you did a good day's work, giving that kid the opportunity to get into accelerated learning. Good on ya!