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Old 06-07-2006, 07:07 PM
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I live here in Cali and the whole C.A. thing is old, the whole time Chris was on T.V. being interviewed about him kicking his "demons" after he won the Derby was such crap its unreal . I was at a party that he was at about a week after he won the Preakness , the guy was so ripped when he walked in the door that he was there 5 mins and started a fight with Matt Garcia over some 17 yr. old girl that he thought was his "date".
That being said, I do believe Chris met with foul play regarding his death, there were just to many things that didnt make sense and not nearly enough investigating of the people that were on his property when he was found
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As for Lukas , you can respect him for his ability to get one ready and ruin one quicker than anybody , nobody has ever done a finer job.
Honu!!! great to see you here! Honu I wasnt defending Lukas' breaking down horses. BUt I was a littel sickened about the wishing bad luck part. Guy suffers every day over Jeff. That was what lit my fire. I'm not saying he is St. Wayne.
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Old 06-07-2006, 07:32 PM
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Honu!!! great to see you here! Honu I wasnt defending Lukas' breaking down horses. BUt I was a littel sickened about the wishing bad luck part. Guy suffers every day over Jeff. That was what lit my fire. I'm not saying he is St. Wayne.
Hey Oracle, I would never wish bad luck on anyone , well excpet for the jerks that broke into my car and stole my 2003 breeders cup jacket.
Wayne Lukas has accomplished alot of things that most likely wont be repeated in my lifetime......still doesnt mean I like the way he trains,thats just me.
To wish someone bad luck is inviting your own karma.
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Old 06-07-2006, 07:35 PM
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Hey Oracle, I would never wish bad luck on anyone , well excpet for the jerks that broke into my car and stole my 2003 breeders cup jacket.
Wayne Lukas has accomplished alot of things that most likely wont be repeated in my lifetime......still doesnt mean I like the way he trains,thats just me.
To wish someone bad luck is inviting your own karma.

Honu,
When I was younger and stupid, I was stewing over someone and wishing them bad luck. My very wise mentor, a trainer, looked at me and said "Mike, you don't ever have to wish someone bad in life. If they are truly a bad guy they will dig their own hole, and the Lord will help them dig". I never forgot that, ever. And its a good lesson.
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Old 06-07-2006, 07:41 PM
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"Mike, you don't ever have to wish someone bad in life. If they are truly a bad guy they will dig their own hole, and the Lord will help them dig"


Finally someone offers an explanation as to why Lukas has hit the SHI#$ER over the last few years.
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Old 06-07-2006, 08:04 PM
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Someone I know in the industry can't stand Lukas.

He told me a story about one of his friends and a fellow owner sending a horse to D. Wayne.

He asked they guy, "Why in the world would you send a horse to Lukas.?"

The guy said,

"Hey, say all you want about Lukas. But the simple fact is that with him training one you find out what you have really quick.

It doesn't seem like Lukas will string owners along and milk the day rates under the guise of "taking care of the horse." He will run the **** out of them, and if they can't cut it, it's time to get rid of them.

At least you know what kind of horse you have with this guy. If your horse sucks, you will know it soon enough."

I'm not sure if this is right or not, but just an alternative opinion.
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Old 06-07-2006, 11:19 PM
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yeah jeff a good friend does point out a friends faults 2 him or her but i stated a opinion my own and personally i dont feel its off base like you and some others think. debbie lol i was teasin ya bout gary but after chris died he also felt his life was threatened and hired personal body guards. ive already stated my opinions and nobody wanted 2 reply to this 1 but the comments luka$$ made after jockey confirmed to me that he will never change from being a self centered a$ s hole, all he cares about is himself
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Old 06-07-2006, 11:46 PM
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Actually I like the little jabs. And I don't really care how you feel about Lukas. There's a certain trainer I can't stand, and I won't mention about him here. But as for referencing Lukas as Luka$$, this belongs back on the Espn Boards not here
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