Random post-Derby thoughts

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by justindew

OK. That's fine. But it also means you will never have to admit you are wrong about POTN. Right?

Thus, this debate will always continue. Which is fine. I'm just sayin'.

Can you honestly say that while watching him down the stretch in the Derby you felt like you were watching a good horse?

[justindew]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

Can you honestly say that while watching him down the stretch in the Derby you felt like you were watching a good horse?

I think the jury is still out, which is part of the reason for my post.

I thought he ran a pretty nice race in the Derby. He was up close early, put away the front-runners (who were of questionable ablity, I agree), and then held off two pretty good horses (while possibly interfering) for 2nd. On a track that he had every right (as did everyone) to dislike, I feel like it was a pretty solid effort.

I think Pioneerof The Nile will win a Grade I on dirt someday. Does that make him "good"? No. Frost Giant is a Grade I winner. But POTN has faced 47 opponents in his last 5 races, and he's beaten 46 of them. And he's won two Grade Is in the process, and finished 2nd in another Grade I on dirt.

Originally Posted by Sightseek

Can you honestly say that while watching him down the stretch in the Derby you felt like you were watching a good horse?

Can you honestly make something out of that quagmire.
You may be absolutely correct, POTN might be just
a good old fashioned effort horse without much talent.
Really a very run of the mill 3yo.

But if you can take the Derby, and make definitive statements
about POTN, I would like to know how.

Further more if you can claim that probably the two best 3 yo
that are unable to run would have won in that slop by at the very least 7 lengths
I would like to know how you figure that given the conditions.
Because some have claimed Revenge AND Quality Road would
have filled out the exacta.