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Danzig · #1 05-10-2009, 06:12 PM

supposedly allen is doing this so he can 'get his rider back'. i wonder how calvin would feel, whether he'd want to ride back for the guy, if he stoops to this level to keep out the filly?

#2 05-10-2009, 06:18 PM

Shut the f.uck up, you devoid of hearts.

#3 05-10-2009, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Shut the f.uck up, you devoid of hearts.

What?

Sightseek · #4 05-10-2009, 06:43 PM

Shady, shady, shady.

Danzig · #5 05-10-2009, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek

Shady, shady, shady.

no, they're just trying to save the filly, and racing, from themselves.

ouija board has no idea how lucky she is, that she escaped death so many times.

Danzig · #6 05-10-2009, 06:49 PM

i wonder if anyone has stats out there to show if there's a different percentage of injuries when fillies race colts vs racing other fillies. it would be nice to have proof that it's not any riskier to race vs the opposite sex than vs females.

10 pnt move up · #7 05-10-2009, 07:08 PM

You have to love racing, buy a horse for 10 million, and you cant run her because they are going to run a bunch of dogs due to crazy rules keeping the best horse out of the race.

Seriously, it would be tough to make this stuff up. Gotta love the sport..err game that this is.

Smooth Operator · #8 05-10-2009, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

i wonder if anyone has stats out there to show if there's a different percentage of injuries when fillies race colts vs racing other fillies. it would be nice to have proof that it's not any riskier to race vs the opposite sex than vs females.

May not be any super colts (or 'roid-fueled freaks like Curlin or Big Brownroid) in this year's Preakness field ... but it's still gunna be a big class jump for the filly.

BIG difference going from smallish fields of overmatched fillies to a full field of males ... and in a longer contest, no less.

Not sayin she doesn't have a shot to win the race ... just that there could be a big jump in injury risk too.

By the way, the last filly to run in the Preakness, Baffy's Excellent Meeting in '99, pulled up and didn't finish the contest...

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/colum...sportCat=horse

GenuineRisk · #9 05-10-2009, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

i wonder if anyone has stats out there to show if there's a different percentage of injuries when fillies race colts vs racing other fillies. it would be nice to have proof that it's not any riskier to race vs the opposite sex than vs females.

I don't know if there is, but sometime around Rags' Belmont I read a really interesting article about the physiological advantages of colts vs. fillies. I wish I could remember where I saw it and post the link, but I remember the thrust of the article being that there was no real advantage for colts at short distances (six furlongs and less) and at long ones (past a mile and a quarter) but that the males had an advantage for the middle distances, with the advantage peaking at a mile and a quarter.

I looked for the article, but no luck so far. However, I did find this, ahem, very "interesting" look at Rags' Belmont victory from a Biblical standpoint.

http://www.biblenews1.com/history7/20070609filly.htm

Apparently Christians aren't getting enough sodium in their diets and Rags to Riches is the Whore of Babylon. Or something like that. I was a little confused by the end of the article.

PPerfectfan · #10 05-10-2009, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

supposedly allen is doing this so he can 'get his rider back'. i wonder how calvin would feel, whether he'd want to ride back for the guy, if he stoops to this level to keep out the filly?

I dont think its to keep Calvin, its cause he is scared sh*tless of Rachel!!! Must make her connections feel pretty good that these grown men are begging people to enter crappy horses to keep her out. Then they try to get on their high horse and use the "were concerned for her safety" crap, when all they are worried about is their horse getting beat by a filly. Hey guys its called race fixing, get over it, ur gonna get beat by a girl!!!

Danzig · #11 05-10-2009, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by PPerfectfan

I dont think its to keep Calvin, its cause he is scared sh*tless of Rachel!!! Must make her connections feel pretty good that these grown men are begging people to enter crappy horses to keep her out. Then they try to get on their high horse and use the "were concerned for her safety" crap, when all they are worried about is their horse getting beat by a filly. Hey guys its called race fixing, get over it, ur gonna get beat by a girl!!!

it wasn't my opinion that they were doing it to keep calvin, it's what mark allen said. (Allen) said, 'Listen, my trainer is gone and I also have my jockey being taken away from me and I don't know if I'm going, even can run in the Preakness like that.