Finley on Jess...

Cannon Shell · #1 05-10-2009, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by freddymo

The part about Monmouth was OK

Even a blind squirrel...

sumitas · #2 05-10-2009, 12:01 PM

No question the Rachel Alexandra entry has added a lot of excitement to the Preakness .

NTamm1215 · #3 05-10-2009, 12:46 PM

The amount of s.hit Jess Jackson has taken on this board continues to surprise me. Sure, he used quite a bit of hyperbole when it came to Curlin and I'm sure he's got more in store for Rachel Alexandra. But who cares?

Further, Curlin's 4YO campaign was everything that we as fans seem to desire. He ran in the big races, he tried different things and he ended up running in a race that WE wanted to see him in. Now he's doing something with Rachel Alexandra that realistically was a longshot with her prior connections.

What would everyone be saying if Godolphin had purchased Rachel Alexandra? They've really done a great job getting Music Note and Cocoa Beach to the races this year as both are now out until at least mid-June despite having 0 injuries. They took Seventh Street and put her in the blue silks, and have now pushed her next start back to the Ogden Phipps after she came out of her Apple Blossom victory in perfect condition according to Kiaran McLaughlin.

At least we know Jess Jackson is going to run her. And what the hell is with all of the complaints about running her in the Preakness? That was a public workout in the Oaks. Are the same people who complain about horses being prematurely retired or ducking the biggest spots complaining about Jess Jackson owning Rachel Alexandra and running her in the Preakness?

Whether Jackson is talking out of his ass when it comes to breeding stronger and more stamina-oriented horses remains to be seen as well, however, he seems to be one of the few actually talking about it.

It just seems funny to me that Jess Jackson might be the guy that actually does some of the things that racing fans want yet everyone is sickened by him buying Rachel Alexandra.

Happy Mother's Day.

NT

PatCummings · #4 05-10-2009, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215

The amount of s.hit Jess Jackson has taken on this board continues to surprise me. Sure, he used quite a bit of hyperbole when it came to Curlin and I'm sure he's got more in store for Rachel Alexandra. But who cares?

Further, Curlin's 4YO campaign was everything that we as fans seem to desire. He ran in the big races, he tried different things and he ended up running in a race that WE wanted to see him in. Now he's doing something with Rachel Alexandra that realistically was a longshot with her prior connections.

At least we know Jess Jackson is going to run her. And what the hell is with all of the complaints about running her in the Preakness? That was a public workout in the Oaks. Are the same people who complain about horses being prematurely retired or ducking the biggest spots complaining about Jess Jackson owning Rachel Alexandra and running her in the Preakness?

Whether Jackson is talking out of his ass when it comes to breeding stronger and more stamina-oriented horses remains to be seen as well, however, he seems to be one of the few actually talking about it.

It just seems funny to me that Jess Jackson might be the guy that actually does some of the things that racing fans want yet everyone is sickened by him buying Rachel Alexandra.

Happy Mother's Day.

NT

Agree wholeheartedly. Whether you want her in the race or not, it is exciting, and will be exciting. The bottom line is, so many people seem to never be happy and always criticize decisions one way or another - and also, never seem to appreciate the decisions of people for whom money is not a concern.

So be it, if you want.

I am excited to see RA if she runs in the Preakness - Finley had it right - do we really want to see her beating up on 3YO fillies all year...if that is in fact what might happen if she goes to the Acorn?

If she wins by five, you know everyone is gonna be on here saying the track took her home, a strong bias, this crop really isn't that good, etc.

Live and let live. I, for one, am glad to have Jess Jackson around, and I think the sport needs more people like him willing to take some chances. I'm also glad the non-regular-race-watching public will get a chance to be introduced to RA.

King Glorious · #5 05-10-2009, 01:25 PM

Amen. I don't get the negative either. It's like everyone on here is holier than thou and decide that they can't like a horse or don't want to see certain things happen because they don't like an owner because he's not the best person. It's horse racing. I couldn't care less about the owner or his personal life. He's giving us what we all want to see. No matter if we thought it was the right decision to run her in the Preakness or not, no matter if we'd have waited til the Belmont or the Travers or never run her against the boys........everyone will be watching the Preakness to see what she does and if she does something even halfway as special as what she did in the Oaks, we'll all be happy that he ran her there. This is what's good for the sport and I'm glad that there are some that do things that are good for the sport and not just for themselves. It's a risky sport and a risky business. It's funny how, in a sport that's based on gambling, people think it's so stupid for owners to take gambles. I wonder how the sport got so far away from the concept of having the best take on the best to see who is the best? That's what he's doing now. Right now, he's got the opportunity. Next month or three months from now, he may not.

zippyneedsawin · #6 05-10-2009, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious

Amen. I don't get the negative either. It's like everyone on here is holier than thou and decide that they can't like a horse or don't want to see certain things happen because they don't like an owner because he's not the best person. It's horse racing. I couldn't care less about the owner or his personal life. He's giving us what we all want to see. No matter if we thought it was the right decision to run her in the Preakness or not, no matter if we'd have waited til the Belmont or the Travers or never run her against the boys........everyone will be watching the Preakness to see what she does and if she does something even halfway as special as what she did in the Oaks, we'll all be happy that he ran her there. This is what's good for the sport and I'm glad that there are some that do things that are good for the sport and not just for themselves. It's a risky sport and a risky business. It's funny how, in a sport that's based on gambling, people think it's so stupid for owners to take gambles. I wonder how the sport got so far away from the concept of having the best take on the best to see who is the best? That's what he's doing now. Right now, he's got the opportunity. Next month or three months from now, he may not.

I... agree. Sure, I may have some trainers/owners I favor.. but I'm not 'against' Jackson or assmussen... and I'm glad RA is pointing to the Preakness.. certainly makes the race more intersting in what was becoming a very boring/disappointing triple crown..

Danzig · #7 05-10-2009, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by zippyneedsawin

I... agree. Sure, I may have some trainers/owners I favor.. but I'm not 'against' Jackson or assmussen... and I'm glad RA is pointing to the Preakness.. certainly makes the race more intersting in what was becoming a very boring/disappointing triple crown..

i'm not against jackson in that sense, where you root against his horses. BUT, i do have serious issues with asmussen, and do not understand why an owner would select a trainer like him. oh wait...yes, i do understand it. the problem most have with jackson is his assuming a mantle of sportsman, when the simple fact is that curlin would never have run at four unless the ownership issue was hanging over his head. for anyone to pretend otherwise is pure fantasy. he didn't do it to be sporting, or to take care of fans, he did it because he couldn't get a stud deal.
am i glad rachel is pointing to the preakness? absolutely. am i happy to know when she gets to the winners circle about who will be there with her? absolutely not.

sumitas · #8 05-10-2009, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by zippyneedsawin

I... agree. Sure, I may have some trainers/owners I favor.. but I'm not 'against' Jackson or assmussen... and I'm glad RA is pointing to the Preakness.. certainly makes the race more intersting in what was becoming a very boring/disappointing triple crown..

Mine That Bird's win was "boring" ? I don't think so and the Preakness would be very exciting without Rachel Alexandra just to see if MTB can win again . Sure, she adds to the excitement but she's not the whole story here .

Merlinsky · #9 05-13-2009, 08:41 PM

Finley, Plonk... nice try Cronley, can't just sip the crazy Kool-Aid, gotta drink the whole glass if you want to compete.

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/hor...jay&id=4165114

I don't think Rachel just lucked out with small fields. One of the things about being who she is, is you start scaring off the competition. And what's she gonna do? Hit up fields of 3 in the future? Who wants their filly's heart broken? Might've aimed for the Belmont or Travers myself if you want actual competition with less of a tight fit between races but sure, they wanna go for the Preakness it's not that crazy. Poor MTB, he's not so hopeless--for a lil fella he thinks he's hot stuff this week right? Giacomo hit the board, MTB's got his new style and a confidence boost.

Sightseek · #10 05-10-2009, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215

The amount of s.hit Jess Jackson has taken on this board continues to surprise me. Sure, he used quite a bit of hyperbole when it came to Curlin and I'm sure he's got more in store for Rachel Alexandra. But who cares?

Further, Curlin's 4YO campaign was everything that we as fans seem to desire. He ran in the big races, he tried different things and he ended up running in a race that WE wanted to see him in. Now he's doing something with Rachel Alexandra that realistically was a longshot with her prior connections.

What would everyone be saying if Godolphin had purchased Rachel Alexandra? They've really done a great job getting Music Note and Cocoa Beach to the races this year as both are now out until at least mid-June despite having 0 injuries. They took Seventh Street and put her in the blue silks, and have now pushed her next start back to the Ogden Phipps after she came out of her Apple Blossom victory in perfect condition according to Kiaran McLaughlin.

At least we know Jess Jackson is going to run her. And what the hell is with all of the complaints about running her in the Preakness? That was a public workout in the Oaks. Are the same people who complain about horses being prematurely retired or ducking the biggest spots complaining about Jess Jackson owning Rachel Alexandra and running her in the Preakness?

Whether Jackson is talking out of his ass when it comes to breeding stronger and more stamina-oriented horses remains to be seen as well, however, he seems to be one of the few actually talking about it.

It just seems funny to me that Jess Jackson might be the guy that actually does some of the things that racing fans want yet everyone is sickened by him buying Rachel Alexandra.

Happy Mother's Day.

NT

Merlinsky · #11 05-10-2009, 06:06 PM

They're (Allen, Zayat, Whitney, Jackson, RA's prior owners, etc) gonna keep on with this crap til they're gonna make me wish IEAH had gotten her for $1.2 mil earlier in the year. Seriously? Why would they want to do that to a person? What have I done?

Thunder Gulch · #12 05-12-2009, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215

The amount of s.hit Jess Jackson has taken on this board continues to surprise me. Sure, he used quite a bit of hyperbole when it came to Curlin and I'm sure he's got more in store for Rachel Alexandra. But who cares?

Further, Curlin's 4YO campaign was everything that we as fans seem to desire. He ran in the big races, he tried different things and he ended up running in a race that WE wanted to see him in. Now he's doing something with Rachel Alexandra that realistically was a longshot with her prior connections.

What would everyone be saying if Godolphin had purchased Rachel Alexandra? They've really done a great job getting Music Note and Cocoa Beach to the races this year as both are now out until at least mid-June despite having 0 injuries. They took Seventh Street and put her in the blue silks, and have now pushed her next start back to the Ogden Phipps after she came out of her Apple Blossom victory in perfect condition according to Kiaran McLaughlin.

At least we know Jess Jackson is going to run her. And what the hell is with all of the complaints about running her in the Preakness? That was a public workout in the Oaks. Are the same people who complain about horses being prematurely retired or ducking the biggest spots complaining about Jess Jackson owning Rachel Alexandra and running her in the Preakness?

Whether Jackson is talking out of his ass when it comes to breeding stronger and more stamina-oriented horses remains to be seen as well, however, he seems to be one of the few actually talking about it.

It just seems funny to me that Jess Jackson might be the guy that actually does some of the things that racing fans want yet everyone is sickened by him buying Rachel Alexandra.

Happy Mother's Day.

NT

Absolutely agree..say what you want about his ego, but the guy wants to prove that his horse is better than the others (even if he just bought her). At least Jackson is looking for a challenge while the other major story involving the Preakness this week was a case of idiot owners trying to exclude the horse everyone wants to see run.

Bernardini · #13 05-14-2009, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215

The amount of s.hit Jess Jackson has taken on this board continues to surprise me. Sure, he used quite a bit of hyperbole when it came to Curlin and I'm sure he's got more in store for Rachel Alexandra. But who cares?

Further, Curlin's 4YO campaign was everything that we as fans seem to desire. He ran in the big races, he tried different things and he ended up running in a race that WE wanted to see him in. Now he's doing something with Rachel Alexandra that realistically was a longshot with her prior connections.

What would everyone be saying if Godolphin had purchased Rachel Alexandra? They've really done a great job getting Music Note and Cocoa Beach to the races this year as both are now out until at least mid-June despite having 0 injuries. They took Seventh Street and put her in the blue silks, and have now pushed her next start back to the Ogden Phipps after she came out of her Apple Blossom victory in perfect condition according to Kiaran McLaughlin.

At least we know Jess Jackson is going to run her. And what the hell is with all of the complaints about running her in the Preakness? That was a public workout in the Oaks. Are the same people who complain about horses being prematurely retired or ducking the biggest spots complaining about Jess Jackson owning Rachel Alexandra and running her in the Preakness?

Whether Jackson is talking out of his ass when it comes to breeding stronger and more stamina-oriented horses remains to be seen as well, however, he seems to be one of the few actually talking about it.

It just seems funny to me that Jess Jackson might be the guy that actually does some of the things that racing fans want yet everyone is sickened by him buying Rachel Alexandra.

Happy Mother's Day.

NT

Amen, I liked Curlin, I liked the fact that he competed in most all top notch races and yes thank you Jess Jackson for making it possible.