Borel off Bird for Rachel in Preakness

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

i have no idea, but the track super said the track was wet/fast.

Also I gauruntee or however you spell it, that Secretariat would not have run 3 seconds slower if the track had been wet.

Probably would have run the same time.

ok fair eneough , im not saying he is Secretariat , what i am trying to say is , if he runs past the same cast of characters in the prekaness the same way as he did in the ky derby won't those horses feel as though they can't win going into the belmont - won't they know they are to pardon the phraze boys against a man???

i mean he didn't beat them , he drubbed them , someome who saw it live said he would have continued opening up on them if they went around again

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by gales0678

ok fair eneough , im not saying he is Secretariat , what i am trying to say is , if he runs past the same cast of characters in the prekaness the same way as he did in the ky derby won't those horses feel as though they can't win going into the belmont - won't they know they are to pardon the phraze boys against a man???

i mean he didn't beat them , he drubbed them , someome who saw it live said he would have continued opening up on them if they went around again

What makes you think that he is going to be running against the same horses if he should pull another upset out of his ass?

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

What makes you think that he is going to be running against the same horses if he should pull another upset out of his ass?

explain to me how winning by 7 lengths and pulling away from the field is pulling an upset out of his a**?

you make a valid point , he could face fresh horses in the belmont - we'll see about that after round #2

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by gales0678

explain to me how winning by 7 lengths and pulling away from the field is pulling an upset out of his a**?

you make a valid point , he could face fresh horses in the belmont - we'll see about that after round #2

The 2 probably favorites and (my opinion best horses) IWR & Quality Road scratch + post time favorite Fresian Fire not breaking clean and getting to the front +the track condition + an absolute tremendous ride on the best part of the track = Mine that Bird lighting up the toteboard. To use someone else's quote, "It was the Perfect Storm".

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

The 2 probably favorites and (my opinion best horses) IWR & Quality Road scratch + post time favorite Fresian Fire not breaking clean and getting to the front +the track condition + an absolute tremendous ride on the best part of the track = Mine that Bird lighting up the toteboard. To use someone else's quote, "It was the Perfect Storm".

when the gates opened all the horses had their chances , 1 fired 18 others did not - surely he must get credit for that

as for IWR and QR - we will never know

Dunkirk was right there against QR but could not be found in the derby

IWR got beat by POTN - 2 times - you going to tell me IWR was going to run the same figures he did at AQU on fast tracks on the muddy surface at CD?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by gales0678

when the gates opened all the horses had their chances , 1 fired 18 others did not - surely he must get credit for that

as for IWR and QR - we will never know

Dunkirk was right there against QR but could not be found in the derby

IWR got beat by POTN - 2 times - you going to tell me IWR was going to run the same figures he did at AQU on fast tracks on the muddy surface at CD?

why does he get credit for 18 who didn't fire? he got lucky. getting lucky doesn't mean he was good.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by Danzig

why does he get credit for 18 who didn't fire? he got lucky. getting lucky doesn't mean he was good.

was it a great race by mtb - yes or no?

surely the jockey helped but did the rail / slop really make him win by 7

if that race was another 1/4 he wins by DD ! he was pulling away it , he was much the best, and if he repeats next sat then what will you say?

[MisterB]

Forgive me but, wasn't the 10 million a long term investment? No need to be a Rags, and never race again. Goes to show you, some people have more money than brains

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by gales0678

ok fair eneough , im not saying he is Secretariat , what i am trying to say is , if he runs past the same cast of characters in the prekaness the same way as he did in the ky derby won't those horses feel as though they can't win going into the belmont - won't they know they are to pardon the phraze boys against a man???

i mean he didn't beat them , he drubbed them , someome who saw it live said he would have continued opening up on them if they went around again

What makes you think that he is going to be running against the same horses if he should pull another upset out of his ass?