witholding taxes on winnings

[Dunbar]

Originally Posted by SundaySilence

The worst part is that "signers" are above the line, that is they effect your adjusted gross income and a lot of credits are based on your AGI... so even though you can offset wins with itemizing, you can lose out on other items where you would have qualified such as the child tax credit, college tuition costs, and exemption allowances.

It is total BS that even though you have equal losses to offset wins, your wins are added to your AGI, then your tax credits are based on your AGI, and then you take your standard (or itemized) deduction. Only way to get around that is claim professional gambler status that Dunbar mentioned.

So not only are you getting f'd by the racetrack with 25% takeout on exotics, then the IRS gives it to you if you lucky enough to hit a few signers.

Dunbar mentioned it but you get really royally screwed if you were taking the standard deduction to begin with.

Right. The effect on AGI penalizes even those who ARE able to deduct losses by itemizing.

Filing as a pro gets around those problems but creates other issues. The self-employment tax comes into play, and that will add as much as another 14% of your net profit from gambling to your tax bill. If someone is already itemizing, filing as a pro is better only if expenses exceed some threshold amount that depends on tax bracket and how close the taxpayer's income is to the social security max.

And there are state and local income tax issues, too. Some states flat out prohibit deducting gambling losses from wins. And some states make filing as a professional gambler even harder than the IRS does.

No one is in a rush to give a gambler a tax break.

--Dunbar