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Old 05-04-2009, 05:35 PM
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What ever happened to Haynesfield? He could do well in THe Preakness
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Old 05-04-2009, 05:41 PM
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Old 05-05-2009, 08:32 AM
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This is good news. Can't wait to see him stretch out.
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Old 05-05-2009, 05:29 PM
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Brian are you at all concerned with the sudden change of plans? Granted, when a horse like Mine That Bird wins the Derby, you have to look at the Preakness a little differently. But last week Romans thought the Preakness would be too much. Now they're going. Methinks Barry Irwin has Preakness fever.
I don't think it's much of a change of plans, because the Preakness was definitely on the table right after the Derby Trial. With that, unless between now and then they had completely backed off of him not expecting to race at all again anywhere anytime soon, the change of plans doesn't bother me. It seems like was on the radar to begin with, and like you say, obviously Mine That Bird makes it a whole lot more enticing.

He and Cash Refund have been my two most exciting horses of 2009, and neither has let me down yet.

DALE ROMANS (trainer of first-place finisher Hull) – “I loved what I saw out there today. He relaxed off the pace, and when the rider asked him to run, he really exploded. He’s as good as anybody around right now. He’s opened up in all three of his races. We entered in the Lexington but we had this race as our backup. Everything had to be perfect if he ran in that race (Lexington), because he was coming back so soon after the Turfway race (on April 2), and when he drew post 12, we didn’t hesitate to scratch him and point for this. We’ll take a look and see what happens in the Derby, who goes on from there and who doesn’t. The Preakness is a possibility for him right now.”
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Old 05-05-2009, 06:11 PM
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Didn't Lukas have one in this weekend that surprised? Not Orthodox surprised, but surprised nonetheless?
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Old 05-05-2009, 06:11 PM
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Tone it Down? That performance on Saturday left a lot to be desired...
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Old 05-05-2009, 06:13 PM
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This is from last Wednesday. It makes sense to go and I'll give him a long look, but I question the sudden change.

http://www.drf.com/news/article/103370.html

Hull points to Woody Stephens

Hull, who remained undefeated with his impressive four-length victory in last Saturday's Grade 3 Derby Trial, will most likely skip the Preakness Stakes and be pointed to the Grade 2, $250,000 Woody Stephens, a seven-furlong race at Belmont Park on June 6.

"The Woody Stephens would probably be the most logical spot," trainer Dale Romans said Wednesday. "He's never had a race around two turns. Coming back in three weeks against the best horses in the country, I just don't know that we want to push him that much."

Romans said the major goal for Hull is the Grade 1 King's Bishop at Saratoga on Aug. 29. Hull is owned by a partnership that includes Team Valor International, Gary Barber, and Heiligbrodt Racing.

Hull, a son of Holy Bull, improved to 3 for 3 with his victory in the Derby Trial, in which he covered 7 1/2 furlongs in 1:30.21. His three wins have come by a combined 16 lengths. He earned a Beyer Speed Figure of 92 for the Derby Trial.
maybe he thinks the best horses in the country will not be making the race, and hull stacks up well vs who can/will show up?
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Old 05-05-2009, 06:21 PM
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This is from last Wednesday. It makes sense to go and I'll give him a long look, but I question the sudden change.

http://www.drf.com/news/article/103370.html

Hull points to Woody Stephens

Hull, who remained undefeated with his impressive four-length victory in last Saturday's Grade 3 Derby Trial, will most likely skip the Preakness Stakes and be pointed to the Grade 2, $250,000 Woody Stephens, a seven-furlong race at Belmont Park on June 6.

"The Woody Stephens would probably be the most logical spot," trainer Dale Romans said Wednesday. "He's never had a race around two turns. Coming back in three weeks against the best horses in the country, I just don't know that we want to push him that much."

Romans said the major goal for Hull is the Grade 1 King's Bishop at Saratoga on Aug. 29. Hull is owned by a partnership that includes Team Valor International, Gary Barber, and Heiligbrodt Racing.

Hull, a son of Holy Bull, improved to 3 for 3 with his victory in the Derby Trial, in which he covered 7 1/2 furlongs in 1:30.21. His three wins have come by a combined 16 lengths. He earned a Beyer Speed Figure of 92 for the Derby Trial.
Gotcha -- so basically they changed their mind twice in a week, because I am pretty positive there was another article somewhere around Sunday talking about the Preakness too.

Either way, it makes me think he'll be ready to go, since I'm not quite sure what they would have done with him in those three or four days that would make him all of the sudden rushed into the Preakness. Sounds like they had a couple options on the table and have just had a tough time deciding which one they wanted. If they had decided next Wednesday that they'd like to go, I'd be a bit more concerned.

If he loses, my guess is that it will have just about everything to do with the fact that he doesn't handle two turns well or that he just isn't quite good enough, and just about nothing to do with the fact that they went Preakness-Stephens-Preakness in a matter of less than seven days.
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Old 05-05-2009, 06:49 PM
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If I owned Hull I'd go... after that Derby result I would likely send any horse with a hint of ability. Not that I necessarily like him as a bettor, but as an owner, it makes a lot of sense.
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This is from last Wednesday. It makes sense to go and I'll give him a long look, but I question the sudden change.

http://www.drf.com/news/article/103370.html

Hull points to Woody Stephens

Hull, who remained undefeated with his impressive four-length victory in last Saturday's Grade 3 Derby Trial, will most likely skip the Preakness Stakes and be pointed to the Grade 2, $250,000 Woody Stephens, a seven-furlong race at Belmont Park on June 6.

"The Woody Stephens would probably be the most logical spot," trainer Dale Romans said Wednesday. "He's never had a race around two turns. Coming back in three weeks against the best horses in the country, I just don't know that we want to push him that much."

Romans said the major goal for Hull is the Grade 1 King's Bishop at Saratoga on Aug. 29. Hull is owned by a partnership that includes Team Valor International, Gary Barber, and Heiligbrodt Racing.

Hull, a son of Holy Bull, improved to 3 for 3 with his victory in the Derby Trial, in which he covered 7 1/2 furlongs in 1:30.21. His three wins have come by a combined 16 lengths. He earned a Beyer Speed Figure of 92 for the Derby Trial.
Which ones are those?
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