134th Preakness Field Close to Set

miraja2 · #1 05-04-2009, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept

Derby runners considering:
Pioneerof the Nile
Musket Man
Join in the Dance
General Quarters
Friesan Fire

I thought he was pretty impressive on Saturday.
He held on a lot longer than I thought he would, and seemed to respond initially when challenged. Perhaps that was just a product of the track, as he was one of the few that seemed almost as unlikely as Mine that Bird going in, but taking a shot with him in this spot seems reasonable off that performance.

The Indomitable DrugS · #2 05-04-2009, 04:42 PM

He and Regal Ransom ran virtually together the whole way around. They both got to keep their faces nice and clean for the most part anyway.

10 pnt move up · #3 05-04-2009, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

He and Regal Ransom ran virtually together the whole way around. They both got to keep their faces nice and clean for the most part anyway.

Join the Dance had the rail as well

FATPIANO · #4 05-04-2009, 05:35 PM

What ever happened to Haynesfield? He could do well in THe Preakness

Alan07 · #5 05-04-2009, 05:41 PM

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...617&source=rss

brianwspencer · #6 05-05-2009, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Alan07

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...617&source=rss

This is good news. Can't wait to see him stretch out.

brianwspencer · #7 05-05-2009, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Brian are you at all concerned with the sudden change of plans? Granted, when a horse like Mine That Bird wins the Derby, you have to look at the Preakness a little differently. But last week Romans thought the Preakness would be too much. Now they're going. Methinks Barry Irwin has Preakness fever.

I don't think it's much of a change of plans, because the Preakness was definitely on the table right after the Derby Trial. With that, unless between now and then they had completely backed off of him not expecting to race at all again anywhere anytime soon, the change of plans doesn't bother me. It seems like was on the radar to begin with, and like you say, obviously Mine That Bird makes it a whole lot more enticing.

He and Cash Refund have been my two most exciting horses of 2009, and neither has let me down yet.

DALE ROMANS (trainer of first-place finisher Hull) – “I loved what I saw out there today. He relaxed off the pace, and when the rider asked him to run, he really exploded. He’s as good as anybody around right now. He’s opened up in all three of his races. We entered in the Lexington but we had this race as our backup. Everything had to be perfect if he ran in that race (Lexington), because he was coming back so soon after the Turfway race (on April 2), and when he drew post 12, we didn’t hesitate to scratch him and point for this. We’ll take a look and see what happens in the Derby, who goes on from there and who doesn’t. The Preakness is a possibility for him right now.”

slotdirt · #8 05-04-2009, 08:35 PM

This might be the best betting Preakness in a non-catastrophic injury (rest in peace, Barbaro) kind of way since 2005. If you want to beat the Derby winner, now's your chance.

Danzig · #9 05-04-2009, 08:44 PM

i wonder if big drama could end up the fave in two weeks?

slotdirt · #10 05-04-2009, 08:45 PM

I can't imagine Big Drama would be the favorite. That being said, there are some new shooters that could be legit such as Hull and the erstwhile injured Charitable Man and Big Drama.

letswastemoney · #11 05-04-2009, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

i wonder if big drama could end up the fave in two weeks?

The public is going to remember the Derby runners...I think Papa Clem or PotN if he goes are sure things to be the favorite

slotdirt · #12 05-04-2009, 08:50 PM

The difference between this and 2005 is that Afleet Alex had a couple of legitimate excuses that year and went off the Preakness favorite at somewhere around 7-2. What are the excuses for 2-4 this year coming out of the Derby? The track?

Lava · #13 05-04-2009, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

i wonder if big drama could end up the fave in two weeks?

If the Derby top 4 go I think he will be around 10-1. POTN will be the fave if he goes.

nomad · #14 05-05-2009, 10:18 PM

The derby winner should not be discounted. Just what he did on the off track, beating the best 3yos in the country by 7 lengths, should make him the post time favorite, but he won't be. All the experts will think it was a fluke, But this is no fluke. This is one talented horse.

letswastemoney · #15 05-05-2009, 10:46 PM

"Flying Private, the last-place finisher in the Derby, will run back in the Preakness, trainer D. Wayne Lukas told Pimlico officials Tuesday.

"We didn't get what we expected to get in the Derby," said Lukas, a five-time winner of the Preakness."

lol

Danzig · #16 05-06-2009, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by letswastemoney

"Flying Private, the last-place finisher in the Derby, will run back in the Preakness, trainer D. Wayne Lukas told Pimlico officials Tuesday.

"We didn't get what we expected to get in the Derby," said Lukas, a five-time winner of the Preakness."

lol

understatement of the year.

slotdirt · #17 05-06-2009, 08:04 AM

They had to at least have expected 18th.

JerseyJ · #18 05-06-2009, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by letswastemoney

"Flying Private, the last-place finisher in the Derby, will run back in the Preakness, trainer D. Wayne Lukas told Pimlico officials Tuesday.

"We didn't get what we expected to get in the Derby," said Lukas, a five-time winner of the Preakness."

lol

Yeah, like the guy who's won the Preakness 5 times has no clue how to train a race horse. Yeah, the horse didn't run a step in the Derby. But he didn't run a step in his previous encounter on a sloppy track. He had some trouble in Arkansas, and it's not like there is a stable full of Secretariat's waiting for him in the Preakness. I mean going into the Derby, this horse looked better on form than Mine That Bird. At least he had ran an 87 and 91 Beyer Speed Figures on dirt. Plus, accounting for the fact that he didn't care for a sloppy track and he had the 19 post when the outside was bad, and I can see why he's running back. Like I said, a guy who has won double digit Triple Crown races has no idea how to train or spot a horse. Why shouldn't he toss out the Derby and take a shot?

brianwspencer · #19 05-05-2009, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by nomad

The derby winner should not be discounted. Just what he did on the off track, beating the best 3yos in the country by 7 lengths, should make him the post time favorite, but he won't be. All the experts will think it was a fluke, But this is no fluke. This is one talented horse.

LOLZ

Let's touch base again in 10 days or so, ok?

Port Conway Lane · #20 05-06-2009, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by nomad

The derby winner should not be discounted. Just what he did on the off track, beating the best 3yos in the country by 7 lengths, should make him the post time favorite, but he won't be. All the experts will think it was a fluke, But this is no fluke. This is one talented horse.

I'm leaning more toward this way.Instead of drawing a line through the Derby win I'm drawing a line through the previous eight races.