Thank You Mine That Bird

[golfer]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Just curious, what about the other horses on the inside that Mine That Bird catapulted by on his way to victory.....why weren't they helped by the rail?

The winner got a 105 Beyer. If a healthy Quality Road and a healthy I Want Revenge had shown up, DrugS would have cashed his exacta, and only been whining that an impossible horse sucked up for third to cost him the tri and super.

The winner saved us from the most mediocre result in, at least, modern Derby history. But, relatively speaking, he still didn't run THAT well. He looked visually impressive, no doubt, but in many ways it was an illusion.

I thought the rail was the place to be the entire day, not just the Derby. Considering that Borel was able to move up from last on the rail, except for having to leave it to go around Advice, I believe, for the most part, the other horses weren't running on it.


Race 1: Raposa, gate to wire, rail.

Race 2: Riley Tucker, gate to wire, rail.

Race 3: Luv Gov, closed up the inside.

Race 4: Glenwood Canyon, stalking trip from the rail.

Race 6: Accredit, gate to wire, rail.


The best effort yesterday off the rail, in my opinion, was Just Jenda, who ran out of gas late, beaten by Four Gifts, who came up the rail.

[blackthroatedwind]

I hear you, and you have certainly analyzed it FAR better than I have, I just think it detracts a bit from the winner's " performance " to suggest ( not that you were ) that it was a rail driven performance. I had the same discussion with Beyer this morning....and he is on your side.

[CSC]

If I were looking for overlays for future races, I would be looking at yesterday's card and trying to pinpoint horses with wide trips on the dirt course for future reference.

[golfer]

Originally Posted by CSC

If I were looking for overlays for future races, I would be looking at yesterday's card and trying to pinpoint horses with wide trips on the dirt course for future reference.

Absolutely!

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by golfer

Race 4: Glenwood Canyon, stalking trip from the rail.

Didn't this horse come off the rail before the turn?

Also, the winner of the 12th, I believe, had an inside trip as well.

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

Didn't this horse come off the rail before the turn?

Also, the winner of the 12th, I believe, had an inside trip as well.

yes he did, no need to look at facts like that.

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

The winner got a 105 Beyer. If a healthy Quality Road and a healthy I Want Revenge had shown up Drugs, would won cashed his exacta?

So we can assume that these both these horses would have
been ahead of the rest of the field by oh, 8 or 9
lengths, running in a quagmire. We knew before the
race these horses had some crossbreeding with
amphibians.

No huge ifs and buts here.
No wild assumptions.
Before they ran this thing, it was clear these
horses where at least 8 lengths better than the
rest.

Gotcha.

People did listen to Orson Wells on the radio also.
So I guess this is a joke.