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Old 05-02-2009, 08:16 PM
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time to bring back Dave Johnson

this call had to be the worst in derby history, he never saw the horse , he sohuld have had a sign in his box - remember if see horse on rail , think borel
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Old 05-02-2009, 08:48 PM
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time to bring back Dave Johnson

this call had to be the worst in derby history, he never saw the horse , he sohuld have had a sign in his box - remember if see horse on rail , think borel
Time to let Mark Johnson call the race to all....Great call on his part.
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Old 05-02-2009, 08:57 PM
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Time to let Mark Johnson call the race to all....Great call on his part.
That's the call we got at Arlington, and though it was difficult for me to hear him with a group of drunken frat boys next to me screaming, "WHERE THE HELL IS CHOCOLATE CANDY?!?!?!" over and over, I thought it sounded like a pretty good call from him.
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Old 05-02-2009, 09:05 PM
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That's the call we got at Arlington, and though it was difficult for me to hear him with drunken frat boys around me screaming, "WHERE THE HELL IS CHOCOLATE CANDY?!?!?!" over and over, I thought it sounded like a pretty good call from him.

Kentucky Downs was actually alot worse for annoying patrons on Oaks Day. I think it was Grandma's day out and since the Bingo hall across the street burned they ended up at KD.

There were 2.5 dollars of Trifecta tickets at KD cashed in the derby.. A mom and Daughter had a buck each, because they liked the name.
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Old 05-02-2009, 09:36 PM
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Calling at Churchill is not easy... they run straight at you, literally. Its the horses shoulders and the jockey's sleeves for much of the stretch.

The crazy part about this Derby... there were three horses with the same silks (Winstar) and two others with the same silk (Bernie/Atomic).
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Old 05-02-2009, 09:40 PM
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It's a Borel thing. Denman missed him even worse in the BC Juvenile...
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Old 05-02-2009, 09:43 PM
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Calling at Churchill is not easy... they run straight at you, literally. Its the horses shoulders and the jockey's sleeves for much of the stretch.

The crazy part about this Derby... there were three horses with the same silks (Winstar) and two others with the same silk (Bernie/Atomic).
and another two with the same silks and different caps (Godolphin.) And mud covering everything, and on top of it, the most impossible horse in the race with the least distinguishiable silks.
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Old 05-02-2009, 09:49 PM
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hey, he's a small horse . hard to see . give tom a break .
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Old 05-02-2009, 10:45 PM
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Calling at Churchill is not easy... they run straight at you, literally. Its the horses shoulders and the jockey's sleeves for much of the stretch.

The crazy part about this Derby... there were three horses with the same silks (Winstar) and two others with the same silk (Bernie/Atomic).
All three Winstar horses had white caps. I'd have gone ballistic with the colors man!!
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Old 05-02-2009, 10:48 PM
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To be fair, there's no way in hell any of you figured Mine That Bird would be exploding away from the pack. Durkin was probably too shocked to spit it out.
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Old 05-03-2009, 01:19 AM
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All three Winstar horses had white caps. I'd have gone ballistic with the colors man!!
Why does Zayat insist on putting the "Z" on the front of the jockey's cap? It isn't like you can't already pick out his silks 1,500 feet away without binoculars. Pilots landing at Bluegrass airport have been known to remark, "Hey, I see that Zayat has a horse running."
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Old 05-03-2009, 08:19 AM
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All three Winstar horses had white caps. I'd have gone ballistic with the colors man!!
This is so true. When race calling with the same silks, at least in my opinion, you can verify the horse by other markings, jockey style or in the worst case, by its saddle cloth. In the Derby, however, with three horses of the same silk and virtually no chance of seeing a saddle cloth... yikes. You're in the "look through the rest of the field for the other two first" territory. Brutal.
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Old 05-02-2009, 10:24 PM
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Time to let Mark Johnson call the race to all....Great call on his part.
Yeah, very good call I thought. His only mistake was that went back to the English (and correct ) way of pronouncing Derby near the end of the race, but that's forgivable.
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Old 05-03-2009, 02:40 AM
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Yeah, very good call I thought. His only mistake was that went back to the English (and correct ) way of pronouncing Derby near the end of the race, but that's forgivable.
How is it correct to pronounce Derby like "Darby"? If we're messing around with things like swapping vowel sounds, I'll just start pronouncing IEAH as "thrrp."
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Old 05-03-2009, 03:19 AM
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Do you pronounce everything exactly how it's spelt?

I just think it's correct because that's how the race it's named after is pronounced. Anyway, it was just a random comment and a spectacularly unsuccessful attempt at humour, at about the quality level you can expect from me when I'm bored at work.
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Old 05-03-2009, 03:39 AM
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How is it correct to pronounce Derby like "Darby"? If we're messing around with things like swapping vowel sounds, I'll just start pronouncing IEAH as "thrrp."
The same way it is correct to pronounce Paris (pah-ree)

I'm as American as anyone, but we do say it wrong.

I like hearing guys at the OTB in Kentucky pronouncing that Juddmonte horse Champs Elysees as if they never had a history class.
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Old 05-03-2009, 06:08 AM
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How is it correct to pronounce Derby like "Darby"?
Or Versailles as "Ver-sales," as they do in Kentucky?
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Old 05-03-2009, 07:05 AM
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The race was named after the "Derby Stakes" in England and THAT race is pronounced dArby after Lord Derby, pronounced Darby. Ask Lord Derby about the pronunciation. It's been going on for centuries.
Every other racing nation that runs races called "Derbies" uses the British pronunciation.

I get a kick out of "Champs El-EE-es" as if the horse were from Ver-Sales KY!
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Old 05-03-2009, 07:06 AM
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I love Durkin, but his call was reminiscent of Denman's call or miscall of Street Sense in the BC Juvenile. In all fairness, Mark Johnson did not catch the big move early either. He did call the winner sooner than Durkin did, but it wasn't like he saw him in early stretch. Johnson made the call just as MTB was taking the lead. I think announcers just get used to horses rallying on the outside and sometimes just don't see the ones that sneak up on the rail. All in all, I thought Mark Johnson's call was clearly superior to Durkin's.
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Old 05-03-2009, 11:08 AM
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Or Versailles as "Ver-sales," as they do in Kentucky?
Don't forget the little town of Ai-thens, not Athens. Ever been to Desha's in Lexington? Duh-SHAY'S. We do have our quirky pronunciations.

In fact, the 'er' combo is always pronounced 'ar' in English English. 'Clark' is a phonetic spelling of clerk, and Berkshire, home of many racing stables, is 'Barkshire'. Our way of saying 'Derby' is more like 'Durby.' Nobody actually says the 'er' sound - would be Dairby.
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