Rachel Alexandra

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by smuthg

nope. Zarkarva was special, but Ouija Board was the best horse in the world for three years and last year's Arc was pretty weak. I still think in Frankie doesn't get her pinned on the rail in Tokyo in her last race she beats Deep Impact on his track in front of his home town crowd...

Seriously?

She was a very good racehorse, but the best horse in the world for three years? She definitely wasn't the best in the world in '05, I think Ghostzapper was better than her in '04, so that leaves '06 as a possibility..

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Seriously?

She was a very good racehorse, but the best horse in the world for three years? She definitely wasn't the best in the world in '05, I think Ghostzapper was better than her in '04, so that leaves '06 as a possibility..

The real freak.
The term has been overused I guess.
But not with Ghostzapper.

Lost In The Fog as well.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by pgardn

The real freak.
The term has been overused I guess.
But not with Ghostzapper.

Lost In The Fog as well.

LITF was fast, but he was far from a GZ. GZ's brilliance wasn't just his speed, but his tractability and ability to be equally fast at seemingly any distance. LITF, as fast as he was, never did anything past seven furlongs.

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

LITF was fast, but he was far from a GZ. GZ's brilliance wasn't just his speed, but his tractability and ability to be equally fast at seemingly any distance. LITF, as fast as he was, never did anything past seven furlongs.

What he did at 6f was incredible.
But if the definition of a freak is all distances, you would have to be correct.
And with a tumor... I wonder how many races
it actually played a role. The last most likely.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by pgardn

What he did at 6f was incredible.
But if the definition of a freak is all distances, you would have to be correct.
And with a tumor... I wonder how many races
it actually played a role. The last most likely.

It's not the definition of a freak, but running 110+ Beyers at 6 1/2 furlongs, 7 furlongs, a mile, 1 1/8 miles and 1 1/4 miles is way more impressive than doing it a few times at 6 and 7 furlongs. Not to mention that GZ did it on the lead, stalking, and as a dead closer.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

It's not the definition of a freak, but running 110+ Beyers at 6 1/2 furlongs, 7 furlongs, a mile, 1 1/8 miles and 1 1/4 miles is way more impressive than doing it a few times at 6 and 7 furlongs. Not to mention that GZ did it on the lead, stalking, and as a dead closer.

All of his races were just unbelievable, but this will always be my favorite.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyQvNu-XQoQ

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

All of his races were just unbelievable, but this will always be my favorite.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyQvNu-XQoQ

His '03 Vosburgh win was my favorite. His turn of foot was

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxoPR7THZvM

Consider that he went wire-to-wire a year later in winning the BC Classic.

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

It's not the definition of a freak, but running 110+ Beyers at 6 1/2 furlongs, 7 furlongs, a mile, 1 1/8 miles and 1 1/4 miles is way more impressive than doing it a few times at 6 and 7 furlongs. Not to mention that GZ did it on the lead, stalking, and as a dead closer.

If Beyer numbers are what we go by,
then Ghostzapper has to be the best of all
time. How many Beyers numbers at or over 120 did he get?
Got a bit far-fetched (the measuring stick went wacky)
Has any horse ever received that many Beyers at or over 120?
Has any horse had, what, about 40% of his Beyers at or over 120?

Wacked out.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by pgardn

If Beyer numbers are what we go by,
then Ghostzapper has to be the best of all
time. How many Beyers numbers at or over 120 did he get?
Got a bit far-fetched (the measuring stick went wacky)
Has any horse ever received that many Beyers at or over 120?
Has any horse had, what, about 40% of his Beyers at or over 120?

Wacked out.

Like I said, it's not just his speed, it's how many different ways he did what he did.

He had four 120+ Beyers. 128 in the Iselin, 124 in the BC Classic, 123 in the Met Mile and 120 in the Tom Fool. I'm pretty positive he's not the only horse with multiple 120+ numbers. Groovy ran 133 and 132 in back-to-back six-furlong races.

[Scurlogue Champ]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Seriously?

She was a very good racehorse, but the best horse in the world for three years? She definitely wasn't the best in the world in '05, I think Ghostzapper was better than her in '04, so that leaves '06 as a possibility..

She wasn't the best horse in the world any year.

[CSC]

OB was a hard knocker, a filly/mare very easy to like and respect. I can understand why she is so liked, of the fillies NA's are probably familiar with she was better than Bank's Hill, closer to Pride than Zarkava in talent. It's a similar argument when you discuss Personal Ensign, Winning Colors, Lady's Secret...