bellamy road was retired

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Originally Posted by moodwalker

as a friend says...children---if u really think bellamy road would not have won the derby without his injury we really have nothing to discuss on the subject

Add him to the long list of horses who would surely have won the Derby minus (insert excuse here.)

There is at least one every year.

Bluegrass Cat would have surely won the Derby if Barbaro would have bolted to the rail and sat down to have a smoke.

And that darned Afleet Alex would have surely taken home roses if it weren't for that damned Jeremy Rose taking him down to the rail and keeping him too close.

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Does anyone think Sis City was great?

She won like a damn machine by huge margins more than once on her Oaks preps.


Really, does anyone think she will go down as "one of the great ones?"

Originally Posted by moodwalker

Does anyone think Sis City was great?

She won like a damn machine by huge margins more than once on her Oaks preps.


Really, does anyone think she will go down as "one of the great ones?"

That was Dutrow at his finest...........

Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing

That was Dutrow at his finest...........

I don't quite get the logic there. If Dutrow were the magician you are insinuating that he is, then why did she flame out so badly after that?
Certainly if he had magic elixirs and methods he would be able to get her to match those efforts right?
Sis City is no different than many top horses(more often fillies). She simply ran a monstrous effort that bounced her out for good.
her Gulf race was wonderful, but her Ashland was just too crazy fast. She was never the same and became largely disinterested in competing, kind of like Meadow Star after her epic "Mother of all Gooses" race agaisnt Lite Light. She never won another race.
She trained this year according to Rick just like she was top notch. But in the afternoons she simply refused to put out.
If Dutrwo is so "magic" why could he not reverse this?
Are you saying hes only "magic" when he wins?

Originally Posted by oracle80

Sis City is no different than many top horses(more often fillies).

kind of like Meadowlake after her epic "Mother of all Gooses" race agaisnt Lite Light. She never won another race.

Absolutely correct ... the record books are filled with fillies who were champions one year ... but who couldn't ... or more likely wouldn't ... run a lick the next year.

And ...

... we know you meant Meadow Star ... not Meadowlake.

Originally Posted by Bold Brooklynite

Absolutely correct ... the record books are filled with fillies who were champions one year ... but who couldn't ... or more likely wouldn't ... run a lick the next year.

And ...

... we know you meant Meadow Star ... not Meadowlake.

Yes, I meant Meadow Star.
There are more than her.
take a look at Winning Colors 4yo campaign.
Take a look at ladys secret her last year of racing which ended when she bolted on the first turn of an allownace race and pulled herself up and just stood there as the crowd gasped.
Fillies, much moreso than colts(who are not immune from this) are much more prone to this.
Hell Storm Flag Flying had all of us waiting to see her at age three after that delicious two year old year. She had decided over the winter that she no longer cared about running. She eventually won a slow grade one with a perfect trip but never again after age two did she achieve great efforts.
I'm trying to figure out the logic of Joel's post and drawing a blank.
If a guy is a "magician" with a horse, and continues to train the horse, why would the same efforts not keep occurring?

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Originally Posted by oracle80

Yes, I meant Meadow Star.
There are more than her.
take a look at Winning Colors 4yo campaign.
Take a look at ladys secret her last year of racing which ended when she bolted on the first turn of an allownace race and pulled herself up and just stood there as the crowd gasped.
Fillies, much moreso than colts(who are not immune from this) are much more prone to this.
Hell Storm Flag Flying had all of us waiting to see her at age three after that delicious two year old year. She had decided over the winter that she no longer cared about running. She eventually won a slow grade one with a perfect trip but never again after age two did she achieve great efforts.
I'm trying to figure out the logic of Joel's post and drawing a blank.
If a guy is a "magician" with a horse, and continues to train the horse, why would the same efforts not keep occurring?

would you consider Storm Flag Flying a great horse?

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Originally Posted by oracle80

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I'm trying to figure out the logic of Joel's post and drawing a blank.
If a guy is a "magician" with a horse, and continues to train the horse, why would the same efforts not keep occurring?

It's not hard to figure out what he's insinuating. He's claiming the man doesn't follow the rules. And I don't get that at all. He's supposed to be an up nd coming horse analyst for the FTOBA. How would he look Dutrow (or the Louisiana "Cajun Clan" stewards, etc, etc) he's bashed if and when he gets a chance to interview him?