5/1 (CD): Kentucky Oaks (G1)

[robfla]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Got the desired result.....opened my mouth and the entries came up.

They made 3:30.

I think Zenyatta will have her hands full with One Caroline and Unbridled Belle in a race without much pace

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by robfla

I think Zenyatta will have her hands full with One Caroline and Unbridled Belle in a race without much pace

Isnt it just a case of betting whether she is 100%, there is no pace scenario that beats her in anything close to her best.

[philcski]

They really put together a great card. The Alysheba is fascinating...

[VOL JACK]

Originally Posted by philcski

They really put together a great card. The Alysheba is fascinating...

I think Mambo in Seattle is gonna get back to his 3yo summer form.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by VOL JACK

I think Mambo in Seattle is gonna get back to his 3yo summer form.

I like Bullsbay in that race. A LOT.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by philcski

I like Bullsbay in that race. A LOT.

Don't forget to key him for 7th in the septafecta.

He sucks.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Don't forget to key him for 7th in the septafecta.

He sucks.

Macho Again, I'm not taking 5/2 on a deep closer in a race with very little pace, even if he's been good to me in the past he really needs a setup. Ready Set is mediocre at best... beat a terrible group in the WV Derby in his lone decent performance, the Discovery was an OK number but he really just clunked up for 3rd. Maybe he could win off the layoff and the development from 3 to 4, but that's a lot to ask when he'll get overbet because of the connections. Mambo in Seattle will probably be overbet because he always is, and really had no excuse at the FG in his last dirt race, and just really hasn't been the same since the Travers. Cool Coal Man I used to like a lot and I've had enough of after that no-excuse debacle at AQU, he could bounce back but I'm not taking less than 5-1. Star Guitar moved from statebreds to graded stakes and got waxed- even if you draw a line through that because of the slop he still isn't fast enough. Shift in Power is 5-6 lengths too slow to win. Prom Shoes is a useful horse but will probably do what he always does running at the bottom of the superfecta, even though his last is better than it looked- maybe if he's a huge price I'll use him. Informed is just terrible.

That leaves Dr. Pleasure and Bullsbay. Dr. Pleasure, I liked both his races at GP, this is probably a good spot for him to break through as the likely pacesetter by default- Cool Coal Man probably won't go since it's pretty clear where he does his best running- and there's no other horse in here with a ton of early speed. Bullsbay, who knows what happened in the Donn? Clearly it wasn't physical because he wheeled back 2 weeks later and won. Draw a line through that and you have a legitimate contender at a good price, who does have tactical speed, is 2-2 at CD and 3-3 at the distance. I feel very comfortable standing with those two.

Tell me what I'm missing here.

[blackthroatedwind]

You are dismissing horses with form, whether it is as good as some might think or not, for a horse with no ability. Bullsbay sucks. Did you take a close look at his last race? I don't think so....or you wouldn't be picking him. The Hal's Hope? Come on. Bribon didn't show.....and the rest of the field was hopeless. Look who was 3rd. Would you like him here? I guess you're betting him in the Belmont 8th on Friday.

Like him or not, Mambo in Seattle has run on two synthetic tracks and two sloppy tracks since the Travers, so intimating that he hasn't had excuses in those races is wrong. Now, he might get a wet track on Friday, but otherwise he has a license to beat these. Cool Coal Man was not particularly good last time....but he may be pretty loose here. He's certainly a better horse than Bullsbay ( as, of course, is Mambo....at least on a dry track ). You think Macho Again is a deep closer? I don't. Now, he may move up in the wet, but he's also a better horse than Bullsbay. Ready Set does suck....he still may be better than Bullsbay. I have little interest in the others. Frankly....I don't have a great deal of interest in the race. I just think Bullsbay is a joke. But, hey, if he's 15:1, good luck. Don't let me talk you off of him.

[robfla]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Don't forget to key him for 7th in the septafecta.

He sucks.

sucked enough to win

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Don't forget to key him for 7th in the septafecta.

He sucks.

Yet another clever opinion on my part.

[eajinabi]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Yet another clever opinion on my part.

He? Who?

[robfla]

Originally Posted by philcski

I like Bullsbay in that race. A LOT.

good call

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by robfla

good call

I second that.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by philcski

I like Bullsbay in that race. A LOT.

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Originally Posted by philcski

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Loves him some Churchill. Good call.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by philcski

I like Bullsbay in that race. A LOT.

Good call Phil, hope you stuck with him.

[hockey2315]

This Bravo coverage is hell. . .

[Scurlogue Champ]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

This Bravo coverage is hell. . .

Haha, this is great.