4/27: Incident mars Derby Works..

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by parsixfarms

Given the toll the souped up tracks take on the horse population, why would you want that?

I think that's pretty much nonsense.

I'd love to see the track like it has been in most Derby's past. I think it makes for the most fairly run and exciting races.

[parsixfarms]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

I think that's pretty much nonsense.

Go talk to a trainer about the impact that racing over hard tracks have on the horses (splints, etc.), and maybe you'll change your opinion.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by parsixfarms

Go talk to a trainer about the impact that racing over hard tracks have on the horses (splints, etc.), and maybe you'll change your opinion.

The track cushion has been made deeper and deeper over the years ...

Have the horses become more sound as a result?

A lot of times when the track is very fast - it is wrongly viewed to be speed favoring by jocks and horseman - and the races tend to be a little more demandingly run.

I guess let's just run everything on poly track where the distance horses go 50 and change under holds and still fade through the stretch.

I'd hate to see a track like the one Gulfstream had on Sunshine Millions day.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

The track cushion has been made deeper and deeper over the years ...

Have the horses become more sound as a result?

A lot of times when the track is very fast - it is wrongly viewed to be speed favoring by jocks and horseman - and the races tend to be a little more demandingly run.

I guess let's just run everything on poly track where the distance horses go 50 and change under holds and still fade through the stretch.

I'd hate to see a track like the one Gulfstream had on Sunshine Millions day.

Is your avatar a bet with John White that POTN finishes exactly 8th in the Derby?

[The Indomitable DrugS]

I enjoy Jon White a lot for the most part.

If POTN wins the Derby - I will have an avatar of myself here for the rest of the year.

If POTN finishes ahead of IWR - I will have an avatar of myself till Preakness day.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

I enjoy Jon White a lot for the most part.

If POTN wins the Derby - I will have an avatar of myself here for the rest of the year.

If POTN finishes ahead of IWR - I will have an avatar of myself till Preakness day.

Don't you already?

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by GBBob

Don't you already?

Not quite.

And if POTN wins the triple crown ... naked photos.

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

I guess let's just run everything on poly track where the distance horses go 50 and change under holds and still fade through the stretch.

How about 2 recent TURF against-the-PACE 'classics':

1) Winter View in the Bewitch

2) Madeo in the Ingelwood.

Surprisingly, even Vic knows enough to understand that it's all about WHEN you move and not the fractions.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

You are doing quite a number on my ankles.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

That's twice Steve has said POTN looks good. I was just waiting to see how he likes it there. That's my choice. We will see whether he's what I think he is, or if he's what Andy says he is ("PIONEER OF NOTHING.")

[jms62]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

That's twice Steve has said POTN looks good. I was just waiting to see how he likes it there. That's my choice. We will see whether he's what I think he is, or if he's what Andy says he is ("PIONEER OF NOTHING.")

Love to hear Andy debate John White on the prospects of POTN in the Derby on ATR...

[South Beach Luv]

Originally Posted by jms62

Love to hear Andy debate John White on the prospects of POTN in the Derby on ATR...

l've never heard Andy on ATR but it's hard to imagine him or anybody getting a word in edge wise

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by South Beach Luv

l've never heard Andy on ATR but it's hard to imagine him or anybody getting a word in edge wise

That's rarely one of my problems.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by jms62

Love to hear Andy debate John White on the prospects of POTN in the Derby on ATR...

Hey, who knows, another three or four contenders drop out and he could be in the super.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Hey, who knows, another three or four contenders drop out and he could be in the super.

and then you can debate whether or not the Gandolphin horses hit the board.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by jms62

and then you can debate whether or not the Gandolphin horses hit the board.

I'm not sure Desert Party can't have an impact on this race. He's a better horse than Pioneer of the Nile.

Then again.....who isn't?

[DogsUp]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I'm not sure Desert Party can't have an impact on this race. He's a better horse than Pioneer of the Nile.

Then again.....who isn't?

This is a very valid question. I think that Desert Party can have a impact on this race and with Q.R out, I think that Regal Ransom can have am impact as well.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I'm not sure Desert Party can't have an impact on this race. He's a better horse than Pioneer of the Nile.

Then again.....who isn't?

If you were a betting man ... Do you think a Gandolphin horse hits the Super?

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I'm not sure Desert Party can't have an impact on this race. He's a better horse than Pioneer of the Nile.

Then again.....who isn't?

If POTN doesn't win the Derby, he'll have his chance to do it (win a Triple Crown Race) in front of you at Big Sandy. Like father, like son. I like him better in the Belmont, anyways.