Save Presque Isle Downs

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

While you would often see fields of 12 in those races .. more than half of the horses in those races were either like career maidens with one zero Beyer figure after another - or other hopeless sorts who'd be lucky to break a 20 with a perfect trip.

How is this any different than what was going on (and still is) at NYRA this winter? Talk about UNPLAYABLE.

At least PID has POLY. I'm going to play this track this year. I bet it's probably very beatable. All the other stuff is peripheral.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

How is this any different than what was going on (and still is) at NYRA this winter? Talk about UNPLAYABLE.

At least PID has POLY. I'm going to play this track this year. I bet it's probably very beatable. All the other stuff is peripheral.

I had good success there last year, and didn't really put a lot of extra effort into it. Other than CD and OSA, the only other track I showed a real profit on. Pools are small so you can't play big into it but I did well with simple win and exacta bets.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

How is this any different than what was going on (and still is) at NYRA this winter? Talk about UNPLAYABLE.

At least PID has POLY. I'm going to play this track this year. I bet it's probably very beatable. All the other stuff is peripheral.

It's different because horses are running just to collect the 1K. That's not the case at AQU

This poor thing would have run once a week if given the chance ... (notice how she was only 10/1 in the route race against MALES! that was some race!)





This poor thing was made to attempt a comeback off of a 2+ year layoff in hopes of collecting some 1K checks. What you don't see is that it was twice a gate scratch.




As for you playing PID this year ... I certainly wouldn't try and discourage you.

Thanks to a 35/1 longshot that won by 5 lengths on closing day of last years meet - my top selection showed a flat bet profit for the 100 day meet. I also had a flat bet profit with both "best bets" and Best longshots" at both '07 and '08.

However, if playing tracks with small fields, many highly uncompetitive races, small pool sizes, and sky high takeout isn't your type of thing .. you'll find better options anywhere else you look.

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

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However, if playing tracks with small fields, many highly uncompetitive races, and sky high takeout isn't your type of thing .. you'll find better options anywhere else you look.

This appears similar to GG. Most seem to think that big, competitive fields make for better racing. I think the opposite. If you play tracks like GG selectively, you can actually do very well. I follow GG on a regular bases but I rarely bet more than 1 or 2 races a day there.

It's all about picking your spots. And, if you play a lot of other tracks, it's easier to resist the urge to bet races where you don't have an advantage/opinion.

This summer I'm focusing on DMR, AP, WO, and PID. I'll also, of course, be playing many of the non poly tracks.

Equibase uses TRAKUS data for the WO charts. Can't get anything more accurate out there. This makes the track a must to play.

Most of the focus seems to be on lowering takeout, while it should be on more accurate, more accessible, data, IMO.

[Travis Stone]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

Equibase uses TRAKUS data for the WO charts. Can't get anything more accurate out there. This makes the track a must to play.

Hopefully it's accurate enough to offset the take-out...

[The Indomitable DrugS]

The takeout at Woodbine compares favorably to PID ... and the fields are much deeper and races more competitive and the pool sizes larger.

[philcski]

The takeout in PA in general is an absolute joke. Always has been.

Or in a Byk-style word I've been holding out on, it's USURIOUS.

[PatCummings]

Someone mentioned PID has Polytrack, was there a change away from Tapeta?

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

Most of the focus seems to be on lowering takeout, while it should be on more accurate, more accessible, data, IMO.

Seriously?