NBA Playoffs

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Billups has a big dollar contract with a lot of years on it. I believe AI's contract is a max contract, who else could they have got with one of those? Dumars obviously made a decision that they werent good enough to compete this year anyway and started revamping for the future.

Nothing would have been obvious if AI would have worked out.
But you are right. Dumars now has AI and Sheed to get rid of
and start over. Hamilton was given an extension. I think that says
something. And Stuckey looks like he might work out anyway.
Even the other
Bynum has had some good games.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by pgardn

Nothing would have been obvious if AI would have worked out.
But you are right. Dumars now has AI and Sheed to get rid of
and start over. Hamilton was given an extension. I think that says
something. And Stuckey looks like he might work out anyway.
Even the other
Bynum has had some good games.

What difference does it make what AI did or does? He wasnt who they traded for, they traded for cap space. Now they have lots of room to operate and it will be interesting to see what Dumars does.

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

What difference does it make what AI did or does? He wasnt who they traded for, they traded for cap space. Now they have lots of room to operate and it will be interesting to see what Dumars does.

It makes a hell of a lot of difference.
So they would have traded AI if they had won the division?
I dont think so.
If had the best record in the East they would
have traded AI.
I dont think so.
If they had won the championship they would have traded AI?
I dont think so.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by pgardn

It makes a hell of a lot of difference.
So they would have traded AI if they had won the division?
I dont think so.
If had the best record in the East they would
have traded AI.
I dont think so.
If they had won the championship they would have traded AI?
I dont think so.

Uh they traded for him. It was quite obvious that they couldnt do any of those things with or without him. They have virtually no post game, Stuckey has disappointed, Wallace is slipping, Prince is a great role player but isnt a star, RIP is still in his prime but is mainly a catch and shoot guy on a team that has no inside game to draw pressure off of him. In the NBA most trades are player for contract or contract for player.

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Uh they traded for him. It was quite obvious that they couldnt do any of those things with or without him. They have virtually no post game, Stuckey has disappointed, Wallace is slipping, Prince is a great role player but isnt a star, RIP is still in his prime but is mainly a catch and shoot guy on a team that has no inside game to draw pressure off of him. In the NBA most trades are player for contract or contract for player.

yes it is quite obvious.

Now.

At first part of the season when he was traded
it was quite obvious...? So there were no other big contracts
for players that would be obvious failures?

No way I give up on Stuckey yet.
He was caught up in a lot of team stuff this year.
With a group of new players (ie AI and Sheed gone)

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by pgardn

yes it is quite obvious.

Now.

At first part of the season when he was traded
it was quite obvious...? So there were no other big contracts
for players that would be obvious failures?

No way I give up on Stuckey yet.
He was caught up in a lot of team stuff this year.
With a group of new players (ie AI and Sheed gone)

Who thought the Pistons weren't in decline? If he can clear out cap space and get some players in there it will be a good move. Dumars understood that his team wasnt good enough to beat Cleveland or Boston the next few years so he is revamping. That is smart, tough for the fans this year and probably next but good in the end. There are a lot of NBA teams losing money that will be looking to dump salaries, having cap space makes Detroit a big player in the market. It may not work as he may not be able to get the right combination but who really thought detroit was a viable contender?

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Who thought the Pistons weren't in decline? If he can clear out cap space and get some players in there it will be a good move. Dumars understood that his team wasnt good enough to beat Cleveland or Boston the next few years so he is revamping. That is smart, tough for the fans this year and probably next but good in the end. There are a lot of NBA teams losing money that will be looking to dump salaries, having cap space makes Detroit a big player in the market. It may not work as he may not be able to get the right combination but who really thought detroit was a viable contender?

With the offense that Iverson could bring,
I thought it was possible they might be better.
(I actually love his effort, just hate his stubborn
nature.)
Detroit had always been a defensive, slug it out team
that was in an offense rut as I remember. I was of the mind
that he might work out. They certainly were not going
anywhere with Billups. You never know with a brand new
component.

But the point that he clears space with a large expiring contract
made it a decision with options, which is really important.
Especially as we look at Detroit now.

AI missing practice and then having pine splinter phobia makes
it so much easier in the end for all involved.